First thing here in 3.1

[Nabian]

Personally I just want the reward to be worth the effort. If your going to make it top tier weapon quality then the time put into it should be equal to the time and effort it takes the average player to clear the top current end game content.

I would rather the items be easier to get but make them more for glamour purposes than for actual stats.

That and to hell with RNG. The light farming system was good. The drops and alex and atma can all go die

[Xenos74]

Personally I just want the reward to be worth the effort. If your going to make it top tier weapon quality then the time put into it should be equal to the time and effort it takes the average player to clear the top current end game content.

That and to hell with RNG. The light farming system was good. The drops and alex and atma can all go die

The thing about the light farming system is that now that's likely the step choking progress on anyone trying to work on zeta with HW. So much of the current new content gives no light, and in order to get lightnfrom older content you need to be of appropriate lvl....good luck finding people that want to spam Garuda Hm with a 50 cap for 300+ runs or dungeons. This my current issue trying to finish nin zeta (obiously for glamour) so I don't really care if I don't finish it, but it is still a roadblock.

As for new relics, I'm just hoping they're not gated behind red scripts

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

The thing about the light farming system is that now that's likely the step choking progress on anyone trying to work on zeta with HW. So much of the current new content gives no light, and in order to get lightnfrom older content you need to be of appropriate lvl....good luck finding people that want to spam Garuda Hm with a 50 cap for 300+ runs or dungeons. This my current issue trying to finish nin zeta (obiously for glamour) so I don't really care if I don't finish it, but it is still a roadblock.

As for new relics, I'm just hoping they're not gated behind red scripts

For me the light phase was the worst because I knew exactly how many hours I was going to have to put into it before I even started. I love how people are arguing about what kind of skinner box they want to be stuck into though lol.

[Daralii]

The thing about the light farming system is that now that's likely the step choking progress on anyone trying to work on zeta with HW. So much of the current new content gives no light, and in order to get lightnfrom older content you need to be of appropriate lvl....good luck finding people that want to spam Garuda Hm with a 50 cap for 300+ runs or dungeons. This my current issue trying to finish nin zeta (obiously for glamour) so I don't really care if I don't finish it, but it is still a roadblock.

As for new relics, I'm just hoping they're not gated behind red scripts

There was someone here a few days ago that said the fastest method nowadays is FATEs in Summerford, but I have no idea how true that is.

[Eye_Gore]

There was someone here a few days ago that said the fastest method nowadays is FATEs in Summerford, but I have no idea how true that is.

The theory behind that, if my numbers are correct. HM primal base lights is 8, bonus is 16. FATES are 4 lights. So even at bonus you only need 4 FATES to match it, obviously only 2 for the base. The FATES in Summerford even level synched are steamrolled solo, even boss FATES there are 3, and they pop quickly. So in the amount of time if you take into consideration ques times and possibly wipes for doing an HM primal is a lot longer than 4 FATES in Summerford. Oh and its there because of the small map size it fast and easy to the next FATE.