A1 Savage Astrologian PoV

[kiraan]

Let's play the quote game!

-Gasp- You mean AST isn't actually a mini-WHM and is meant to be played differently? Or maybe he trusted his raid group enough or understood that over time health regen will be enough to top the raid? Fancy that..

Trust? No, just NO, its just not efficient at all to use AoE as AST, and you have no CD to boost the potency either. AoE are in the base healing kit of every healer. When i play AST, i'm trying to avoid doing them as much as i can because i don't have the mana safety of SCH, or the increase potency of WHM. If for you AST should just put some regen here and there, and let your healing partner carry you, i don't know what to say

So he didn't get the best opportunity to use CO. That's unfortunate but it's the same with assize - sometimes its used just from MP regen rather than the damage or heal..

Problem is, its not "sometimes" in this case, its always and with assize you can at least heal at least 2 people with it, but if you actually need it right away, you didnt use it proactively and healed people at the same time but thats another issue.

Not any different from Sacred Soil or Sacred Prism..

Totally irrelevant, He is in diurnal so i don't know why you try to compare heals over time and damage reduction. AST can't do anything else at all when they use it.

Please really? It's no different from other A1 clears where the WHM heals one tank and the SCH heals the other tank. Props to the healing duo (trio) for working together and trusting each other..

Its actually different as in its much safer to use WHM/SCH. They were so much times when people were at 5-10% and wouldn't be healed until Eos healed

Spamming physick/cure (variations) also fun.

I'll give you this one!

[Rewind]

Let's play the quote game!

Trust? No, just NO, its just not efficient at all to use AoE as AST, and you have no CD to boost the potency either. AoE are in the base healing kit of every healer. When i play AST, i'm trying to avoid doing them as much as i can because i don't have the mana safety of SCH, or the increase potency of WHM. If for you AST should just put some regen here and there, and let your healing partner carry you, i don't know what to say

What? AoE healing is the base of all healers? SCH 2.0 had inefficient AoE healing and whilst it has a tiny smidge more utlity in 3.0 . Succor was/is mainly prepatory and is still completely inefficient to spam. On A1 savage a bard will ballad during the run phase regardless if its a WHM/SCH combo or an AST/SCH combo. Maybe be a bit less conservative and push out a bit more HPS? The AST in the video was also quite conservative in the pretty much perfect kill video.

[Leiloni]

Trust? No, just NO, its just not efficient at all to use AoE as AST

That's actually not true at all. When 8 people are taking damage, an Aspected Helios is incredibly efficient. It's actually more efficient than Medica II for only slightly less healing. Helios is also more mana efficient than Medica and by a larger margin than AH vs Medica II. AST is in general a very mana efficient healer when played correctly, but I don't doubt that many do not play it correctly. That's our schtick - less healing potency, but also less mana per potency. We're the quick, efficient healer.

The only situation where the WHM would be better is where the base heals are not enough. In situations where you need Divine Seal/Fey Illumination, then WHM and SCH come out ahead. The lack of good healing cooldowns is one of our biggest issues, along with cards not being potent enough to make a big enough difference. So we do not need changes to our base healing toolkit. We do however need better cooldowns.

One thing to keep in mind however, is that there are times when the SCH/WHM cooldowns are unnecessary and overpowered. There are a lot of bad WHM/SCH out there who pop cooldowns when they don't need them (OMG SO MUCH DAMAGE! Must pop Divine Seal and Medica II and maybe a Medica! OMG I'm out of mana, quick pop Assize/SoS - in a situation where another WHM may just pop a standard Medica II and trust the HoT to do the work because they know there isn't more incoming AoEs anytime soon). The healers that do the first thing, and feel like they need those skills more often than is really necessary, play a class like AST and don't know what to do.

AST DOES need better cooldowns, absolutely, and please let those be added/fixed/changed soon, but don't forget that SCH/WHM are very idiot proof healers because they have so many get out of jail free cards. I'd rather find a really good WHM/SCH video and compare that to the best AST videos. AST does need work, but let's focus on what it's issues truly are and not talk about stuff that isn't.

[Esmir]

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This is put together fairly well. I like how you see AST.

For me, I can't play any of the other healers...I'm addicted to the AST's speed. I don't run out of mp UNLESS I'm doing dps, which I find odd, punishing, yet OK because I feel that the "dps" that ast can provide should be through cards.

Yet, said cards aren't exactly top tier awesomesauce. Wonder if that will be fixed.

[Ahlah]

I wonder what the SCH in the video has to say, if given the choice will he/she rather do the fightl with a whm or another SCH?

Ppl who feel they are doing fine as AST do not understand the amount of strain they are putting on their co-healers... until they are in party with another AST.

[TatoRazzino]

I wonder what the SCH in the video has to say, if given the choice will he/she rather do the fightl with a whm or another SCH?

Ppl who feel they are doing fine as AST do not understand the amount of strain they are putting on their co-healers... until they are in party with another AST.

I can outperform both the WHMs AND the SCHs in all my PF groups for Alex normal as AST; I often solo heal and let the other healer go into cleric stance for the encounter. For Savage, I was healing my preys just fine as SCH (Yes, I did it as SCH) and my WHM was struggling. Since I'll have Synastry as AST, prey healing will be easier and I'll have more AoE options, just like someone mentioned earlier. So explain this to me: how in the world I put strain I put in my co-healers if I let them be on Cleric Stance or I'm always covering their mistakes?

[VitalSuit]

I can outperform both the WHMs AND the SCHs in all my PF groups for Alex normal as AST; I often solo heal and let the other healer go into cleric stance for the encounter. For Savage, I was healing my preys just fine as SCH (Yes, I did it as SCH) and my WHM was struggling. Since I'll have Synastry as AST, prey healing will be easier and I'll have more AoE options, just like someone mentioned earlier. So explain this to me: how in the world I put strain I put in my co-healers if I let them be on Cleric Stance or I'm always covering their mistakes?

Synastry won't be anywhere near enough to heal both prey targets at the same time in A1S.

[TatoRazzino]

Synastry won't be anywhere near enough to heal both prey targets at the same time in A1S.

And who said I'm going to do that? I'm going to use Synastry on the tank I'm in charge of and focus my heals on my prey target. As a SCH I was using a 2:1 ratio, focusing the prey target; with Synastry, I can use two heals on my prey target and my tank will be healed for the equivalent of one big heal. With that strategy I can even throw a heal on the second prey target or heal the other tank, while keeping mine alive.