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  1. #21
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    Anyone have any info on the updated stat weights for WD in 3.0? Of if they were even updated? I'm reading in places that BLM/SMN WD went from around 6.5 to 10.0....
    No one's crunched the specific weights for blm yet afaik, but value from secondaries are reduced across the board for all classes, so WD and Int are more heavily weighted than they were before.
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    Cryss Cook
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    Weapon damage scales with main stat so yeah, if SE didn't change the formula on WD, it is higher just because of that. If we take a look the only available weights at this time (dervy's drg weights) this is true, drg WD jumped from below 10 to over 12.

    Basically until we know the exact new weights on BLM no one can tell you if chest + accessory or weapon will be the better choice for the first 3 weeks, but I think WD is the safe bet. Just buy the wep and glamour your Hive over it. ;P
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    Just buy the wep and glamour your Hive over it. ;P
    The BLM hive weapon is ugly. Hmph.
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    Kona Nightwind
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    Get the weapon, farm Alex for i190 chest. Then buy pieces that get you close to accuracy cap. From what I've seen as a SMN in i190 gear we are way over accuracy. Unless it's a huge accuracy burden, either to much or below cap, I go ring first. It's cheap and usually biggest upgrade that can't be gained easily somewhere else.

    BTW who knows what relic weapons will take. It could be a huge grind and/or huge hill sink. Do we even know what the stats are?
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    Sene Hartmann
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 42
    Generally I'd agree, weapon > all even if expensive... but there's one thing that makes me wonder.

    There's been talk that 3.1 is not that far off and it seems that patch will include new relic weapons which will eventually render ilv 200 weapons obsolete, or else the relics wouldn't be worth the additional work they surely require. Which in turn means that buying esoterics weapon first could result in losing more than 2 weeks worth of esoterics tomes for literally no benefit in a few weeks.

    Not saying it will happen like this but it might.
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    Mercutial Zenos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona_Nightwind View Post
    Get the weapon, farm Alex for i190 chest.
    I thought about this for a sec, then realized I'm trying to dump acc - not take more on. Appears 530 is safe for A2 sav. Ultimately, I need the ESO chest, but the wep is prob where I'm heading with the first purchase (Ilevel considerations aside).

    Though the uncertainty of the relic line continuing soon is a tad bothersome.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercutial View Post
    I thought about this for a sec, then realized I'm trying to dump acc - not take more on. Appears 530 is safe for A2 sav. Ultimately, I need the ESO chest, but the wep is prob where I'm heading with the first purchase (Ilevel considerations aside).

    Though the uncertainty of the relic line continuing soon is a tad bothersome.
    I'm in the same boat. I'm way over Acc cap. But let's assume 8 secondary stats = 1 int and 8 int = 1 WD, in reality I think this over values secondary stats. No matter what piece you get you increase int, WD is so good even if you gain 1 WD and are 64 Acc over it's a push. Using these numbers the int increase from I180 to i190 makes each piece with Acc either slightly better or a push.
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    Last edited by Kona_Nightwind; 07-29-2015 at 11:17 PM.

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    Dante Venarra
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    Get the weapon. Secondary stat weights are abysmal now.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    Get the weapon. Secondary stat weights are abysmal now.
    Yeah.. I understand that. But the I180 to I120 chest vs the I190 to I120 weapon is apparently a source of consternation for not only myself, but others on different forums. Future of relic weapon aside, think I'll still go weapon and not look back.
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  10. #30
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    As a SMN, I'll be going weapon, ring (no acc), chest (no acc), then legs (no acc). This is all subject to change depending on drops. I don't gear for BiS. I gear for whats the best upgrade for my current gear.
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