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  1. #2131
    Player
    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganglyzilla View Post
    That's exactly how I felt hahaha!

    This isn't too much of a horror story; it was just a run that really annoyed me. Queue up for expert roulette and get Fractal...
    Similar to my Neverreap last night. I realized I was 20 Eso short of cap, so I queue for roulette. Very first pull, tank does the pull, stop, allow me to get my regen up then decides to grab the rest of the mobs, losing aggro to me. Takes forever to get it back. Everything is dying slower than I have ever seen. Dragoon is taking damage for some reason, and I can't see them. Turns out they grabbed a mob and kept it back at the start.

    The rest of the run is more painfully slow than I have ever seen. Basically, every group of trash is living long enough for me to run oom, even with shroud, at ilvl 184.
    The first boss is so slow. Then we get to the bees, tank pulls all four plus the treant.... I'm like "this is gonna suck". The dragoon immediatly pulls aggro and dies, costing me a rez, that they wait forever to accept. Obviously we wile before they can even down one mob. I let the tank know that we have far too low dps to be pulling that pack and the dragoon flips out. Ranting at me. I expalin why we can't do that pull to the DRG. I then get the "Can we go now princess"

    Me "Nope"
    Drops group and runs trial roulette.
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  2. #2132
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    Ninster's Avatar
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    Jan 2014
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    Limsa Lomisa
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    Character
    Ninster Barlow
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Ran high level today and got Keeper of the Lake. As Astrologian. I'd only done it once (as DPS), and now I see why people hate the place.
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  3. #2133
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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Character
    Emarial Artayu
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    1. dps not dodging aoe radiuses or ignoring boss mechanics that get them hit or outright killed.
    2.tanks not taking in consideration of the dpses gear and doing huge pulls and making the party wipe
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  4. #2134
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Character
    Pikarin Makai
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganglyzilla View Post

    I return and say, "did you see my mp?" and right after said, "you have raise too". The summoner then replies, "you should be raising before me" ...
    I would have strangled them. In a fight where people are dying and a lot of heals are being done plus the Healer is doing DPS having a SMN do a couple of raises is a godsend. Why they would not want to do that to help the party I don't know. You know which DPS a Healer would raise first if it's a choice? The SMN. Why? BECAUSE THEY CAN RAISE.
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  5. #2135
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Had another one the other day. DF'd Thornmarch, and ended up with the unhappy coincidence of all but myself and one other person being new to the duty.

    Between DPS walking into every AoE they could find, the tank not holding aggro from KMM and everyone ignoring the moogle order/ going after the king despite targets and putting it in chat, I think we wiped about four times before scraping through (both healers thoroughly frazzled.)
    (0)

  6. #2136
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Jordan O'niell
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    ...Tanks use your brains please!
    Our brains have gone soft from all the concussions. No one tank that many hits without having a judgement impairment. :P
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  7. #2137
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    technole's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Thea Sitori
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Esanelle View Post
    Actually, if tanks stay purely defensive, this allows the healers to do some dps, and 3-4 well timed holys each mob pack will do more dps, then the small dps gain using STR accesoirs and/ or going offensive stance
    You realize that is the same argument as healers should dps when possible and keep everyone alive. Tanks should push out DPS when possible, while mitigating, and keeping aggro. I'm a main healer that loves to play warrior and sometimes it's really just healers running into bad warriors is the reason for the fear. I'll explain why STR is superior in the right hands.

    I always run STR stats, and right sides as WAR. (I do carry around a VIT ring or bracelet if the situation calls for it but it's generally not needed for casual content like trials and dungeons. Many don't realize that STR warrior is actually better, if played correctly. Our primary cooldown, Inner Beast HP is gained based on damage dealt. So the more damage we do when it's up the more we get healed (20% dmg reduction, also absorbs 100% dmg as HP). Combine this with the Berserk, Internal Release combos and we can be talking some good mitigation. All the while during runs yesterday my WHM partner is able to throw Asylums, regen, Aero III, and Holy several times to make the run quicker.

    We still have access to cooldowns like Vengeance, Thrill, and Bloodbath (Another healing cooldown) in Deliverance stance. Plus we also have Equilibrium which is a 1200 potency heal when used in Defiance. As long as the warrior is smart with using the stance, not in immediate danger or undergeared we can get some fell cleave damage out and switch stances as needed. Just like Cleric Stance.

    It's the crappy tanks that even stack all VIT, but yet get hit for so much damage, never get IB or any cooldowns up on-time, and well just play bad tank is where the healer "extra work" comes from. A good Warrior can maximize DPS and mitigation.
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  8. #2138
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    Noira's Avatar
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    Character
    Alexa Nubara
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 50
    ^ This, also War benefits from str with Equiliburm, them ore Str we have the more we heal.

    I mean really most of the time the real reason healers have to spam heal with Wars in the party is because they are under the misconception that Wars are harder to heal...If I'm at 15k HP and I'm barely dropping below 10k and you're out of mp, it's not that I'm squishy you just to need to slow the hell down.
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  9. #2139
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    Aelinau's Avatar
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    Character
    Aelinau Laerin
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganglyzilla View Post
    "you should be raising before me" and I say, "again, did you see my mp? I couldn't even afford a raise".
    As a Summoner main i was always under the assumption that if i can swiftcast res someone its my duty before the healer as they have alot of people to look out for. I suppose im a small % of summoners who think like that lol. In any case the summoner seen the nin dead for X time and you having trouble keeping people up should have been a clue enough for them to use their res.... we have res for a reason people
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  10. #2140
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    HiroEB's Avatar
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    Mikh'i Moshroca
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    I've been playing for month now and I wonder if healing is for me, especially after my last experience.

    I did The Vault for the first time today. First two fights were a little rough, but no wipes. But on the last boss I couldn't keep the group alive. We'd get to around 15% or 20% and damage would be too much. After the fourth wipe, I was extremely upset with myself and felt so terrible I told the party I was leaving because I didn't think I could do it. One of the DPS says "Pls do" and kicks me. Not upset over the kick itself, but rather her comment.

    Tried again and one shot the last boss. Things got a little heretic at the end, but no one died. I don't know if those four wipes were due to the group itself, an issue with my own play/inexperience, or a combination of both. But this is not the first time I've struggled, and it's hard not to feel like it's always my fault. I really want to heal, but I often feel like I'm just bad and no about of videos and guides will help.
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    Last edited by HiroEB; 07-29-2015 at 09:03 AM.

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