Lets Talk About UNDERCUTTERS!!!!

[sirDarts]

As long as the undercutting doesnt make an item absolutely worthless and/or less than the vendor price, I am perfectly fine with it. As someone who doesnt craft a lot, I definitely appreciate when things are not overpriced to levels where nobody will/can buy them.

If it's under the vendor price, just buy it and vendor it, free gil is free I'd say.

[IzzyData]

If it's under the vendor price, just buy it and vendor it, free gil is free I'd say.

I think he means it is on the market board for less than you can buy it from a vendor, not sell it to a vendor.

In which case my question is why the hell do people put up items bought from a vendor onto the market board and sell them at higher prices? Or why would anyone buy it?

[Thandronen]

1 thing to fix this massive undercutting nonsense.

Make it so you can never sell it on the marketboard for less than what you'd vender it for. This stops certain high level things (such as Clear Demimateria III) for being sold for less than their actual worth...like how Guild Wars 2 does it. There, we've fixed a lot of the nonsense for things, such as Clear Demimateria III being sold for less than 5K gold (it can be vender'd for that much people).

Agreed. It should've been like this from jump, especially when Yoshi-P is constantly discussing his concern over the amount of data stress on the servers and this would certainly help alleviate a little of that you'd think. Too many items listed on the MB for 1 gil that should've just been vendored and who knows, if these weren't taking up precious data space maybe everyone could have a free 3rd retainer or something! (I know, I know... wishful thinking with that!!!)

[justinjarjar]

Crafters really like their system (and there are very few gil sinks in this game anyways). There is noting worng with undercutting, the game runs on a free market and people can sell at whatever price they want. As someone already said the taxes on different city are much higher than one gil, so if the buyer is informed they might not even buy the 1 gil undercut item.

[IzzyData]

Agreed. It should've been like this from jump, especially when Yoshi-P is constantly discussing his concern over the amount of data stress on the servers and this would certainly help alleviate a little of that you'd think. Too many items listed on the MB for 1 gil that should've just been vendored and who knows, if these weren't taking up precious data space maybe everyone could have a free 3rd retainer or something! (I know, I know... wishful thinking with that!!!)

I put things on the marketboard for 1 gil on purpose because I feel like it would be worth more to someone else to use for crafting for basically free than for me to vendor it or throw it away. I so often have to clear out all my bags full of nonsense and instead of throwing it away I assumed I was being a good person by giving it away in a convenient manner.

Yet somehow I'm actually upsetting people? People don't want free crafting materials or whatever?

[Sylve]

Same. Undercutting by a gil is a jerk move, and I always avoid buying items from people who do so, and refrain from undercutting by 1 or a few gil myself too.

I undercut by 1gil only so that my entry is the first one on the list. Technically the cheapest, but depending on the city the buyer happens to be in ... ! gil undercuts are fine. Yours will still sell to someone who dodges the tax, and even if mine sells before yours, you dont have to adjust to match me because yours is automatically the lowest on the market.

Its funny that undercutting wars happen because "i want mine to sell FIRST!" So they list and relist and relist and relist until you hit 1 gil and suddenly it has no value.
if you get undercut by a vast amount, Leave it alone. Eventually someone will buy it.

[Astral145]

After reading all these comments I think I may go out and farm several stacks of dragon hides and start listing 20 hides at 100 gil less than the going price. Then list another 20 hides at 100 gil less than before and keep going till the price is at 500 gil. Then I'll go out and farm other hides and do the same. The prices for all this stuff is getting out of hand. I don't care about gil there is nothing in this game worth 100k+ except buying a house. The way SE handles crafting and gathering in this game is unbelievable especially the HW crafting system. I mean seriously why would SE change the common drops (looking at HW) to an uncommon drop rate. It makes no since at all.

All in all get over yourselves its just a game. You guys act like this pays your bills....

[AlphaFox]

I think he means it is on the market board for less than you can buy it from a vendor, not sell it to a vendor.

In which case my question is why the hell do people put up items bought from a vendor onto the market board and sell them at higher prices? Or why would anyone buy it?

Because the lazy or ignorant are the true examples of "A fool and his money are soon parted", I bought quite a few tools from the vendors for 20k and resold for 60k and they were gone in a flash.

[Gramul]

Supply and demand.
It's a good thing that this happens as it helps to prevent outrageous inflation.

[HakaseNyan]

I love these kinds of threads. Someone is upset because they can't control what another players does, and so they insist on adding a layer of control they believe will benefit, or deemed fair by, them.

If the market stops being free, then let's have the players with loads of gil pay higher taxes. :^)