Anyone else getting seriously aggrivated by the alexander normal loot system?

[Fenwick]

How exactly is it even possible to not need something at this point? If you're being silly and only gearing 1 job, maybe. That would kind of be your own fault though.

It's not something new that people like to focus on one (primary) job first, nor is it silly to a lot of people interested in endgame progression. It's effective. It also caters to the average player, who likely has no interest in splitting their gear progression or playing multiple roles.

[Sapphic]

How exactly is it even possible to not need something at this point? If you're being silly and only gearing 1 job, maybe. That would kind of be your own fault though.

Because people are gearing their mains for Savage? Wont get first Esoterics item for 3 weeks as those doing Savage, will be going for the biggest upgrade first. The weapon. Thats a few 190 upgrades during that 3 weeks (then 2 weeks for the chest) that would help in Savage progression.

[Dorfentyme]

I like the new system. Prefer this over running it a billion times and never even seeing my drop.

There ARE other alternatives to the 2 things you mentioned. It doesn't have to be this, or the old way.

[Whiteroom]

World of Darkness had it fine: finish a weekly, get your trinket. Done and done. No need to lot a dozen times against other players for the same thing. Make one weekly for each floor or something, that keeps things fair without requiring an absolutely embarrassing amount of grinding.

Rose tinted glasses?

In original WoD you could get one piece per week. It took five weeks to get your whole set. And even then it was only the left side. Alex you can get full right and left in five weeks. Minus the one ring of course. Oh and WoD a thirty plus minute run that I remember running more than 25 times one week... vs Alex ten minute runs with a competent group. Get in a PF farm party and its far far nicer than WoD.

[Eidolon]

Join a PF group that is doing 4 runs and you only have to do 4 runs.

I hate these groups because they often see people vying for the same item and passing others.

My groups request that you stay until -everyone- has a drop. Could it take an hour and a half? Sure. But at least my party members will all get an item.

Think I'm gonna go make a post about this.

[Colorful]

I hate these groups because they often see people vying for the same item and passing others.

My groups request that you stay until -everyone- has a drop. Could it take an hour and a half? Sure. But at least my party members will all get an item.

Think I'm gonna go make a post about this.

Good luck getting people to stay, even with 4 runs I often have people leaving after they get their loot. :l Blisted immediately, still annoying though...

[Kaedan]

ITT: I want instant gratification.

Seriously, that's what the whines boil down to. You want to run the content and get the item in one-shot (okay, maybe some would accept 2-3 runs to get it before they whined). And the most amusing part is that some of the same people claim they don't want EZ mode.

If you want a guaranteed drop within 4 runs, start a party finder group or get a static to run it with. If you don't want to run 4 times, then you have the option to gamble with the Duty Finder. But if you choose to gamble, you don't get the right to complain about rotten luck.

[ElHeggunte]

Because it's a weekly, something done each week should not be this time consuming.
If you are playing 2 seperate characters you are obviously the type that plays this game a considerable amount and it doesn't bother you. People who can't play all the time this drives nuts.

Would you prefer the old system where you could only clear the boss once per week regardless of what was dropped or won? It takes less time per week, but unless you're incredibly lucky with drops and rolls, the amount of time it would take you to gear up would increase exponentially.

[Eidolon]

Good luck getting people to stay, even with 4 runs I often have people leaving after they get their loot. :l Blisted immediately, still annoying though...

100% agree on the blacklist.

I've seen the bad ones, like you said - but I've also seen the really good ones. 6 of us stayed to make sure 1 person got their item after 1 person left. People are good by nature, but you have to state your intentions up front to draw the attention of the good ones.

Sadly, dirtbags will always slink their way into everything. That's their method. Just blacklist them and move on.

[Shneibel]

Can barely run it with friends since everyone needs different drops from different turns.
Have to run it 5-15 times each turn depending on your rolls and what drops for every turn.
And it's a weekly system so if you want to keep up you have to do this every week.

It's just a tedious time waster that you can't even enjoy with your friends.
I hate it.

why not run every turn until everyone got the loot they want ?