Bard Macro lvl 60

[Katchoo]

You make me cry

Yeah yeah, everybody who does not use a macro is amazing and those who do just flat out suck right? Don't care. I use it, i'm not a burden to my static, i can pass the DPS checks and it allows me to play how i want. Would my DPS be slightly better without it? Yeah definitely. Would i be more stressed and have less fun? Yeah definitely.

[rappa]

Yeah yeah, everybody who does not use a macro is amazing and those who do just flat out suck right? Don't care. I use it, i'm not a burden to my static, i can pass the DPS checks and it allows me to play how i want. Would my DPS be slightly better without it? Yeah definitely. Would i be more stressed and have less fun? Yeah definitely.

Why play using a hand when you have two?
Dps check? Probably 2.0 or doing expert.
Primal extremes, alex nm or savage, you will not pass the dps check.

[Welsper59]

Why play using a hand when you have two?
Dps check? Probably 2.0 or doing expert.
Primal extremes, alex nm or savage, you will not pass the dps check.

I think you overestimate how detrimental macros are lol. Unless of course we're talking about some all encompassing macro that has every single ability tied in and only makes you do Heavy Shot as a result. Simple ones like that Misery's End/Bloodletter one don't affect DPS as much as you might think for necessity outside of Savage. You'll do a bit lower using it, but it's not going to be a difference of 0 output for using macros to 1000+ without lol. The sky is not falling for using macros. Definitely don't use it if you're struggling on DPS checks or in progression Savage though. People treat harmless playstyles in content that isn't causing problems for them (even if it means 1min more on a dungeon run) as though it were ebola. Time to freak out!

[Blaste]

I think you overestimate how detrimental macros are lol. Unless of course we're talking about some all encompassing macro that has every single ability tied in and only makes you do Heavy Shot as a result. Simple ones like that Misery's End/Bloodletter one don't affect DPS as much as you might think for necessity outside of Savage. You'll do a bit lower using it, but it's not going to be a difference of 0 output for using macros to 1000+ without lol. The sky is not falling for using macros. Definitely don't use it if you're struggling on DPS checks or in progression Savage though. People treat harmless playstyles in content that isn't causing problems for them (even if it means 1min more on a dungeon run) as though it were ebola. Time to freak out!

If thats the case which macro is safe to use for level 60 BRD?

[Katchoo]

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Somebody with a sensible outlook.

Primal extremes, alex nm or savage, you will not pass the dps check.

I wonder how people who don't use a Macro know that people who do use Macro can't pass DPS checks?

We will see. I'll come back to you when is my static start savage.

[Nanga]

Somebody with a sensible outlook.



I wonder how people who don't use a Macro know that people who do use Macro can't pass DPS checks?

We will see. I'll come back to you when is my static start savage.

Yeah, I must be an anomaly. I macro everything due to a war injury limiting my hand use. I also wreck Ravana-ex in my sleep, as well as Alex-NM. Yep, my DPS is a little behind other bards for A1 Savage, but heck...my missing 75dps is not the reason we were unable to get under 10%. Healers were OOM, tanks had wasted their CD's at bad times, and were collapsing way too early.

I get compliments from many DF groups on how well I do the "bard thing", being johnny-on-the-spot with the right songs, at the right time, for the right durations, etc. Contributing to the group's overall effectiveness, more efficiently than most, more than makes up for my missing ultra min-max 75dps.

In other words: anyone who subscribes to the notion that bards who macro are a disability to their group, are just wrong. It's a notion by super elitists who can't stand spending an extra minute doing the same content they cleared one less minute the day before.

Not everyone is pro. Nor is everyone playing for the pleasure of other people. It's a game, enjoy!

EDIT PS: as a side note, I left other games for how "e-sporty" and ultra-competitive the playerbase had become. Please don't let FFXIV turn in to that. Resist it all you can, because those types of players (the toxic ones) tend to shy away from this game already because it's not so quickly rewarding as others.

[Medieval]

snipe

Being competitive is not "toxic" being toxic is toxic. It's like when you're giving shit for being a "try hard", yes I'm trying. Why the hell aren't you? You also are gimping your team by using macros. If 7 others rely on you to try your hardest and you go the easy route instead of the correct route you are definitely being a hindrance if the content is difficult enough to where you are expected to do all you can to progress. Now if you have an injury and it isn't out of laziness I have no quarrel. If it's due to inability, then you shouldn't do the hardest content in the game.

TLDR: It only becomes a problem when you are expected to do your utmost to maximize your dps for difficult content.

[Nanga]

Being competitive is not "toxic" being toxic is toxic.

It's like when you're giving shit for being a "try hard", yes I'm trying. Why the hell aren't you?

You also are gimping your team by using macros.

If 7 others rely on you to try your hardest and you go the easy route instead of the correct route you are definitely being a hindrance if the content is difficult enough to where you are expected to do all you can to progress. Now if you have an injury and it isn't out of laziness I have no quarrel. If it's due to inability, then you shouldn't do the hardest content in the game.

Talking to people like this are all examples of toxic behavior. Take a good look at why you felt the need to cuss at me, call me names, and negatively describe how I play due to my disability...much less mock me for my disabilities. I mean, really. You basically told me I don't belong playing this game, the way I choose to play - with other people, because of my combat injury.

You chose to come at me with a very toxic attitude, rather than just accept the fact that not everyone is a pro player, and their reasons for it are okay. It shouldn't bother you, so why let it bother you to the point of replying in a manner that is demeaning and...well...toxic? I never described competitiveness as being toxic. I said "those types of players", and then elaborated further by pulling a subset of players out of "those types of players". Your reply shows you belong to that subset: one of the toxic players, in the group of pro players.

PS: just an anecdote, I played on a JP server for a long time, and let me tell ya, it was hard to earn their acceptance into their community, being an english-only speaking American. As much as it pains me to say it, and I don't fault them for it, they don't typically "like" us playing on their servers for some fairly obvious reasons. My experience there really put things into perspective of how folks should treat each other in a game. They are some really wonderful people to play with. Ultimately, it was only the ever-growing language barrier, and mostly the severely low population the server had become, that had me changing to US.

I just invite you to say to yourself: You know, not everyone can be the best at this game. Or any game, for that matter. And that's okay. They're having fun.

[m3eansean]

Yeah yeah, everybody who does not use a macro is amazing and those who do just flat out suck right? Don't care. I use it, i'm not a burden to my static, i can pass the DPS checks and it allows me to play how i want.

Your static is carrying you if you are macro'ing GCD abilities. You are severely limiting your dps, as the wait time between each action will now be 3 seconds. The game does not register tenths of a second in macro commands and will always round up. A wait time of 2.4 will be actually 3 seconds on the server end and it will consume your dps potential incredibly by adding nearly half a second to each skill you use.