It's time to buff Ninja - Yes it is.

[Kaybye]

Then show me a Faust (savage) parse where a ninja does over 1250 ST dps (not hitting adds). Both the other melees can do this currently without factoring in their aoe.

[Rafaelhades]

Lol everyone wants their class to be #1 in their respective role. Why not just ask SE to pick one from each role and erase the rest. Give the only DPS role a sword in one hand, a laser gun in the other and allow them to cast spells while slashing AND shooting the enemy. Just remove the HP bar for the tank class and make them immune to all dmg and give the only healer class LB3 as their only spell with no cast time and no resource requirement.

But wait...then you'll complain that the DPS class can't tank and solo the boss...

[Arkenne]

I just don't get why there is a need to buff the Ninja when its already the least handicapped of the 3 melee DPS :/

[Rafaelhades]

Because everyone NEEDS to be top deeps yo. So we'll have a game with all Ninjas and no tanks or healers and spellcasters.

[Kaybye]

No. I just don't want to be bottom deeps in ST and AoE.

[Blaste]

No. I just don't want to be bottom deeps in ST and AoE.

I believe that spot is reserved for Bard and MCH, not to mention in some cases BLM, keep in mind though with Ninja you only pull the high numbers when you are not really trying, those who actually know what they are doing can get second slot in DPS easily and in some cases first slot. Talking about strictly dps though, not limiting to AOE and ST.

[Kaybye]

Sorry fixed for you:

No. I just don't want to be bottom melee dps in ST and worst dps in the entire game at AoE.

[Subucnimorning]

I believe that spot is reserved for Bard and MCH, not to mention in some cases BLM, keep in mind though with Ninja you only pull the high numbers when you are not really trying, those who actually know what they are doing can get second slot in DPS easily and in some cases first slot. Talking about strictly dps though, not limiting to AOE and ST.

Looking at some of the A1 savage kill parses...a DRG would have to have a really bad pull to lose to a Nin.

[Leonus]

Then show me a Faust (savage) parse where a ninja does over 1250 ST dps (not hitting adds). Both the other melees can do this currently without factoring in their aoe.

Most of what ninja does on Faust won't hit adds, both drg and mnk have AoEs in their rotation that inflate their numbers because of adds depending on how people handle them.

It's all on reddit if you go look.

[ChaozK]

Then show me a Faust (savage) parse where a ninja does over 1250 ST dps (not hitting adds). Both the other melees can do this currently without factoring in their aoe.

Faust is an extremely MNK/DRG friendly fight, hitting positionals and and keeping up GL3/BotD is a non issue, thats why MNK/DRG shine here. Any other more mechanically involved fights NIN can be top dps quite easily, thats where NINs strength lies.

Its the same situation as with BLM vs SMN. BLM on trainingsdummies with no movement outdpses SMN slightly but any realistic fight SMN usually is a bit better.