With the extremely tight DPS checks MCH/BRD are being discluded from Savage groups

[Aeyis]

"B-BUT HEALER MANA!" B- BUT HEALERS GON GET GOOD MATE AND CONSERVE MANA. Or else they get kicked too, the fights in A1/A2 are DPS checks and little more.
And with how tight the DPS checks are (Time limit! LITERALLY.) there is NO WAY a healer should be able to run OOM without major mess ups on their side and DPS side. There is no way that the team is going to surrender even more DPS just to give a healer who is bleeding mana wastefully more mana to waste.

MCH / BRD aren't bringing anything utility wise to make up for this, and parties already know this and are removing their "weak link". People aren't ignorant.

MCH and bards are obsolete already, on the FIRST DAY OUT.

Maybe its different for scholar. But if you also have to dps as WHM you are only going to run out of MP that much sooner.

[Khyan]

Might want to check for AoE there =p

You're not supposed to do aoe during the battle with Faust.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

BRD and MCH (me) in my static and we hit 38% on Faust with relative ease on the first pull.

Cleared it? No, not yet. A few of us could stand to have some better gear. We're in the process of that right now, and I'm confident when we go back in, we'll have little issue with it.

Ye of little faith, Aegis. BRD and MCH could be a lot better, true. But we'll NEVER be obsolete. Not a chance.

[Ooshima]

BRD and MCH (me) in my static and we hit 38% on Faust with relative ease on the first pull.

Cleared it? No, not yet. A few of us could stand to have some better gear. We're in the process of that right now, and I'm confident when we go back in, we'll have little issue with it.

Ye of little faith, Aegis. BRD and MCH could be a lot better, true. But we'll NEVER be obsolete. Not a chance.

Wait, your DPS contribution is 38%?

If that's true it is not gearing issue, your other DPS have problem.

[CosmicKirby]

After a night's (really short because reasons) of trying to get past faust, my 2 gil.

I was pulling comparable/slightly less DPS than a slightly worse geared BLM. The utility of Overcharge was helpful, but considering Faust is a straight up DPS check, it was a bit difficult. I certainly wasn't the only one not providing top of the line DPS, as the Ninja who is as geared as me was pulling slightly above the BLM, and only our DRG was pulling farther ahead by a considerable (10%ish) margin.

It's tough, but certainly doable. My static has no intention of kicking me, as pulling comparable dps and having a regen aura is reason enough to keep me. We didn't clear it after about an hour an a half, but getting 1-2 pieces of alex gear across the board before thursday will easily help us over that hump.

Personal highlight was an 8.6k wildfire.

[Taban]

Might want to check your BRD. My static BRD does 1100 comfortably. Could it be better? Yeah. But others in FC who are better BRDs easily do 1200 no AoE.

Mind posting some parses? I'd like to see their gear and rotations. It's not that I don't believe you, but I haven't seen any single target bard parses hitting 1200+ yet

[CosmicKirby]

BRD and MCH (me) in my static and we hit 38% on Faust with relative ease on the first pull.

Cleared it? No, not yet. A few of us could stand to have some better gear. We're in the process of that right now, and I'm confident when we go back in, we'll have little issue with it.

Ye of little faith, Aegis. BRD and MCH could be a lot better, true. But we'll NEVER be obsolete. Not a chance.

Our bump was right around 3.6-4% health. Consistently.

[Ooshima]

Mind posting some parses? I'd like to see their gear and rotations. It's not that I don't believe you, but I haven't seen any single target bard parses hitting 1200+ yet

one of the parses on reddit, 1317 on Faust

no AoEs used

http://i.imgur.com/WKDgZfw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8s1mqSZ.jpg

[Taban]

one of the parses on reddit, 1317 on Faust

no AoEs used

http://i.imgur.com/WKDgZfw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8s1mqSZ.jpg

I stand corrected, that's the highest I've seen by far

also that smn pulled 1700 single target? That's insane xD

[MisterLucie]

My 2 cents after spending a few hours on A1 tonight:

Our BRD was consistently pulling a bit above 1k (and brought Foe's which increased our smn dps as well), easily killed Faust with him so your point that they'd be excluded is false.
Outgoing damage on Oppressor is extremely intense, and Mage Ballad was incredibly vital during the divebomb phases because even without dpsing I was running on fumes as a whm by the time the boss was at 40% health, so your point that their utility is useless (and that healers that are ooming just need to "git gud") is also incredibly false.

In other words, stop making these awful threads because you never have a god damn clue what you're talking about.