Everyone Hurt, Spam Cure, then Cleric Stance. . . What?

[RiisWolf]

Micromanaging a pet and keeping it alive is the responsibility of its owner.

That responsibility is irrelevant to the topic. Because the topic is healers who don't use AoE healers and just use single target heals which ultimately wastes time and MP when 3 or more players have taken damage, especially when ALL of you taken damage. And I only mention the pets cause it's one of the more obvious give aways to what the healer is not doing if all players including the pets have been damaged bad and only the players get healed while the pets never even received a Medica2, not to mention anyone else for that matter.

[Yrahv]

That responsibility is irrelevant to the topic. Because the topic is healers who don't use AoE healers and just use single target heals which ultimately wastes time and MP when 3 or more players have taken damage, especially when ALL of you taken damage. And I only mention the pets cause it's one of the more obvious give aways to what the healer is not doing if all players including the pets have been damaged bad and only the players get healed while the pets never even received a Medica2, not to mention anyone else for that matter.

You are attempting to generalize methods of healing that are entirely situational. If the players are too spread out for Medica or Medica 2 to reach them all, then it would be more of a MP waste to cast it over individual Cures. In a pre-made group with friends, I can call out for everyone to gather up to heal them all at once. In pugs, I'm not going to bother.

But if a player is ONLY ever casting single target cures or ONLY casting AOE heals, then you're just grouped with a bad healer. Trust me when I say it is not the new normal thing to do. Dust yourself off and move on.

[Serret]

(...) healers who don't use AoE healers and just use single target heals which ultimately wastes time and MP when 3 or more players have taken damage, (...)

Actually, Medica only becomes more mana efficient when at least 4 players take damage not 3. Even so the difference in a 4 player scenario is marginal vs the potential benefit of a 100% free Cure 2.
Obviously if you have more than 4 targets that need healing a Medica is clearly more efficient than individually healing each target.
Though if other healing spells like regen \ medica 2 or asylum are in place, medica might not be needed at all as it will only serve to waste mana and overheal.

But the scenario you proposed seemed to be that of a Light Party not Full.

[RiisWolf]

Actually, Medica only becomes more mana efficient when at least 4 players take damage not 3. Even so the difference in a 4 player scenario is marginal vs the potential benefit of a 100% free Cure 2.
Obviously if you have more than 4 targets that need healing a Medica is clearly more efficient than individually healing each target.
Though if other healing spells like regen \ medica 2 or asylum are in place, medica might not be needed at all as it will only serve to waste mana and overheal.

But the scenario you proposed seemed to be that of a Light Party not Full.

3 Cure 1 cost more than 1 Medica1.
3 Cure 2 cost more than 2 Medica1, and 2 medica1 heals for roughly the same amount as Cure 2 does with less time.
3 Regens cost more than 1 Medica2

The ratio of Spell cost is always the same. Taking more time to heal the same amount of players while damage is still coming is not efficient because it requires more casting which is an unnecessary drain to MP. And yes I did have light parties more in mind cause this happens more often in them, but it doesn't mean I (and others) haven't had the misfortune of experiencing this in full parties.

[Assirra]

3 Cure 1 cost more than 1 Medica1.
3 Cure 2 cost more than 2 Medica1, and 2 medica1 heals for roughly the same amount as Cure 2 does with less time.
3 Regens cost more than 1 Medica2

The ratio of Spell cost is always the same. Taking more time to heal the same amount of players while damage is still coming is not efficient because it requires more casting which is an unnecessary drain to MP. And yes I did have light parties more in mind cause this happens more often in them, but it doesn't mean I (and others) haven't had the misfortune of experiencing this in full parties.

Honest question.
Do people die? If no then this whole thread is invalid.

Both your complaints are basically "they dont heal the way i want them to" where as the second i honestly find stupid because it clutters the screen and makes it actually harder to see what is going on so i consider that invalid anyway.

[RiisWolf]

Honest question.
Do people die? If no then this whole thread is invalid.

Both your complaints are basically "they dont heal the way i want them to" where as the second i honestly find stupid because it clutters the screen and makes it actually harder to see what is going on so i consider that invalid anyway.

Why yes...
And honest question.

You want to preach about "playing the way you want" then would you be OK with healers spaming Cure3 only to OOM and have everyone die cause THAT's the way they play? if not or if it in ANYWAY involves a kick, then keep that junk to yourself.

[Assirra]

Why yes...
And honest question.

You want to preach about "playing the way you want" then would you be OK with healers spaming Cure3 only to OOM and have everyone die cause THAT's the way they play? if not or if it in ANYWAY involves a kick, then keep that junk to yourself.

Junk? You are the one saying that adding clutter on the screen is good and everyone else is an idiot.
My point was, if nobody did die, which you never hinted as far as i can see, it's all fine.

[TonberiScholar]

3 Cure 1 cost more than 1 Medica1.
3 Cure 2 cost more than 2 Medica1, and 2 medica1 heals for roughly the same amount as Cure 2 does with less time.
3 Regens cost more than 1 Medica2

The ratio of Spell cost is always the same. Taking more time to heal the same amount of players while damage is still coming is not efficient because it requires more casting which is an unnecessary drain to MP. And yes I did have light parties more in mind cause this happens more often in them, but it doesn't mean I (and others) haven't had the misfortune of experiencing this in full parties.

Spreading it out over several cheaper casts means your natural in-combat MP regen helps lessen the blow a bit.

[mp-please]

3 Cure 1 cost more than 1 Medica1.
3 Cure 2 cost more than 2 Medica1, and 2 medica1 heals for roughly the same amount as Cure 2 does with less time.
3 Regens cost more than 1 Medica2

The ratio of Spell cost is always the same. Taking more time to heal the same amount of players while damage is still coming is not efficient because it requires more casting which is an unnecessary drain to MP. And yes I did have light parties more in mind cause this happens more often in them, but it doesn't mean I (and others) haven't had the misfortune of experiencing this in full parties.

That's how it works, when done properly.

[RiisWolf]

That's how it works, when done properly.

Properly? You sure your aren't confusing it with luck?