Please add STR to Fending accessories

[SarcasmMisser]

Tanks are there to tank. I don't see the need for strength other than to power your way through content quickly which isn't really necessary if you have good DPS.

You don't have good party DPS without tanks who take their contribution seriously. Stuff like killing A1 before the first jump would not be possible if I and my other tank didn't have 800+ STR.

Even then, not necessarily true. A tank foregoing HP and other defensive measures tends to require more careful maintenance from the healers, lessening their own opportunity to deal damage. And trust me, as a WHM myself, I can see the difference between a VIT-geared tank playing defensively and a STR-geared tank who isn't (prime example: WARs who never use Storm's Path on single/boss encounters, citing DPS loss as their reason why)

Tanks would do well to consider their situations carefully rather than just going balls to the wall DPS on everything.

That's when crafted accessories become useful, you can bring that high DPS into high end content with gear checks or if you're in DF and you get that whiny healer who doesn't understand what EHP is.

[Giantbane]

Speaking only for myself, the Slaying stuff is what I like to wear, but occasionally I have to compromise for my healers.

That aside, of course the crafted accessories are what tanks "like to wear". I'd like to wear any item that had almost double the stats of the instance drops at its level, and significantly more stats than items 40+ ilvl higher.

Sorry, that was poorly worded. I simply meant crafted vs. just the fending items, since it makes you noticeably stronger. More VIT with nothing else is kinda ... meh. Certainly not terribly exciting to go from one tier of fending to the next and the only thing you get is another 20 or so VIT.

[Picori]

This issue would be fixed if things hit harder. Just people are like 10+ ilevels then anything out there right now. So too much HP.
Or make it where you can't cross stuff so can't wear slaying.

[SarcasmMisser]

This issue would be fixed if things hit harder. Just people are like 10+ ilevels then anything out there right now. So too much HP.
Or make it where you can't cross stuff so can't wear slaying.

Why do you consider it a problem that people have a choice, did you just come down from mt.sinai where god inscribed on a stone tablet that people have to wear vit? I don't see why people should be forced to gear inefficiently.

[WinterLuna]

You're so cute. SE has in fact stated that they take the DPS a tank can do into consideration when designing content.

Thanks. And there you go. If they take it into consideration already why do we need extra strength?

[WinterLuna]

Yeah!! We would MUCH rather you do 400 DPS as a tank opposed to 750!!

- said no raid leader ever

Then use strength accessories. Simple. It's one or the other, it's purposely implemented that way.

[Zfz]

This issue would be fixed if things hit harder.

I'm not sure hitting harder is a good design, though. Back in WoW a long time ago we had a lot of those types of encounters. Healers basically spam heal because every hit hits like a truck. There was only one way to gear and that was to gear to minimize the risk of insta-gibs, i.e. a tank buster immediately followed by a full hit that would just take away all the rest of your HP.

It also promoted the study of Effective Health, though, and that mostly isn't talked about in FFXIV.

I like gearing options, but I don't like options that require trading away your core value, i.e. survivability. The choices presented to tanks should be one where the gear changes how one uses skills to maximize dps without sacrificing survivability. So skill-speed build, crit build, det build. Not VIT build vs STR build. But I suppose the design of combos inherently makes that kind of choices impossible to implement.

You're so cute. SE has in fact stated that they take the DPS a tank can do into consideration when designing content.

Source?

[Sapphic]

Which means there should be some communication. If the healer is able to keep up a tank with full STR accessories, then the healer doesn't need to always heal a VIT tank to full. Take the tank over 80% and let Regen or the tank's self-heal do the rest.

Take the level 60 dungeons. They are pretty easy at minimum ilvl 145. Even easier with ilvl 160. Then when the tank and the DPS starts to push over 180 then that excess HP over what it was already easy at is pointless and can easily be converted to STR to speed up the run a bit. Plus the extra mitigation from the armor.

Like at lvl 50. Full ilvl 130 Vit gear would be totally pointless in Castrum meridian.

If you are at minimum ilvl or very slightly over, due to gear mitigation, that extra Vit isn't a waste. But highly over gearing it is different entirely.

[Theodric]

Honestly I'd be happy with seeing STR based accessories limited to DPS classes and VIT based accessories limited to tank classes.

[DakenBrunel]

Its 1.5 years into the games lifespan. Tank DPS matters, and if you don't think so, then you don't fully understand this game yet.