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  1. #621
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    is there a reason the i85 crafting tools can't be desynthed?

    I've been struggling to get my crp and bsm desynth high enough for the i115 stuff and this seemed like a good place to go, but I made a Mythrite Halfheart Saw to desynth and it said it couldn't be desynthed. It wasn't my level either, there was no 0.00% like with the other stuff I'm just not high enough level to do. Farming primals is tedious and takes alot longer than it should for something that isn't anywhere near cap anymore.
    Remember that ilvl (item level) does not always equal what I've been calling "rlvl" (Recipe Level, though it turns out the game uses that term for something slightly different, so I've deemed their Recipe Level to be "Craft Level" ("clvl")). The rlvl is all that matters for desynth, not the item level. otherwise, those Bridesmaid's shoes (which are i1, but r70) would have been desynthable by anyone, not only people with high LTW desynth, and they would have dropped no demimateria at all.

    That Mythrite Halfhart Saw, despite being i85, is r125. You'd need a skill of ~110 to start on that.

    And yes, that item is desynthable.
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    Last edited by Nyalia; 07-18-2015 at 06:45 AM.
    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

  2. #622
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    lordoftheapes79's Avatar
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    Lil'bit Gnawdy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Remember that ilvl (item level) does not always equal what I've been calling "rlvl" (Recipe Level, though it turns out the game uses that term for something slightly different, so I've deemed their Recipe Level to be "Craft Level" ("clvl")). The rlvl is all that matters for desynth, not the item level. otherwise, those Bridesmaid's shoes (which are i1, but r70) would have been desynthable by anyone, not only people with high LTW desynth, and they would have dropped no demimateria at all.

    That Mythrite Halfhart Saw, despite being i85, is r125. You'd need a skill of ~110 to start on that.

    And yes, that item is desynthable.
    So the only things worth a damn to desynth for bsm from 60-90 are still primal weapons? That's frustrating.
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  3. #623
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    If you're looking for skill .. Tinker's Bacon and the Summoner's Bells seem to be decent.
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  4. #624
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    Haruna Astir
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    Oops. I completely forgot to stop at 100 BSM skill and test out your negative, 0% skill theory. I'm sorry. All I can say is, uh, 117 skill is required to get 100% on a Wave Harpoon (ilvl 95) with NQ Bacon Broth and HQ Tinker's Calm.

    And almost on the dot, I got 5 BSM skill points from 80-100 every 20 Summoning Bells with HQ Bacon Broth and Tinker's Calm. It was surprisingly, and frustratingly, consistent. Now it's going even slower because I have to meld two materia to every single Mythrite Pugiones...but I guess I'm getting somewhere. Making a little over half my expenses back from it all, but man, it's not so fun right now. But it's cool, just wait until the Expanse weapons become desynthesizable and we can get Demimateria of the uh, Clouds (Bismarck), and everyone will want cool cloud weapons!...right?

    Anyway, Mythrite Round Knives and Hatchets do indeed come from the Traveling Merchant at Tailfeather or, according to xivdb, the Vath Merchant at Loth ast Vath. Something interesting about that: At 130 skill with NQ Bacon Broth and HQ Tinker's Calm, my chance at Mythrite Stilettos is 62.50%, but with the Round Knife/Hatchet it's 72.50%. So even though they're the same class level, their recipe level is different. I didn't think that would happen until much later in class levels.
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    Last edited by Teiren; 07-18-2015 at 01:36 PM.

  5. #625
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    Lot of the items have a different rLevel and cLevel from what I noticed leveling up tri-desynths. There was some inaccurate leveling paths on the guide as well that I noted because of this, but I was having trouble at the time logging int to post about it, and now I don't recall which. But, I'm pretty sure it was with Mythrite for armorer, or rainbow for weaver from vendor, and there was a slightly more expensive 100-200gil option that had a 10% chance higher desynth. This was first week of HW, though.
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  6. #626
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    Mordaria Kratchbender
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    is the dust leather confirmed or just what has been said on forums?
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  7. #627
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    FYI, under the effects of the NQ Bacon Broth, and a skill of 97.33, I have a 13.00% chance of desynthing Mythrite Pugiones.

    Not sure if that is a data point that you were looking for.
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  8. #628
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    Quote Originally Posted by mordaria View Post
    is the dust leather confirmed or just what has been said on forums?
    No, it was faked. It's very likely Dusk Leather doesn't exist yet. I imagine it will be added in 3.05.
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  9. #629
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    Some more data for you ...

    50 Aurum Regis Creasing Knives desynth'd, skilling up ...

    16 failures (ouch)
    4 Clear Demi III's
    8 Titanium Ingots
    6 Aurum Regis Nuggets (1 of which was HQ) (usually yielded 1, but did yield 2 once)
    5 Hardsilver Ingots (2 of which were HQ)
    3 Scale Glue (1 of which was HQ)
    21 Fieldcraft II's (yield was ranging from 1 to 3)
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    Last edited by Roth_Trailfinder; 07-19-2015 at 03:39 AM.

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    haven't gotten anything special at lvl165 ltw desynth on i160 stuff
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