Astrologian buffs confirmed

[Kietsu]

I was under the impression that in 3.0 they changed Skill/Spell speed to affect DoT potency? I mean I'd definitely prefer giving it to a BLM but I believe Arrow's buff has multiple affects.

Skill Speed and Spell Speed both affect DoT potency depending on if it's a physical DoT or a magical DoT. Problem is, the Arrow doesn't boost either of those stats - it's an Attack Speed buff, which is a direct percentage-based reduction to the GCD and autoattack delay. Neither of those things influences DoT damage. (Although I suppose autoattacks are technically a DoT.)

[Leiloni]

it's an Attack Speed buff, which is a direct percentage-based reduction to the GCD and autoattack delay.

No Arrow boosts skill speed, spell speed, and lowers the GCD. Have you ever looked at your cast times when under the effect of Arrow lol? Not to mention I think it's actually in the buff description in your skill book.

[Ghishlain]

I was under the impression that in 3.0 they changed Skill/Spell speed to affect DoT potency? I mean I'd definitely prefer giving it to a BLM but I believe Arrow's buff has multiple affects.

While Haste does serve a similar function to Skill and Spell Speed, they are indeed different parts of math being calculated. DoT potency is based off a function of Skill / Spell speed. Notice that when you use a Haste buff, neither of these stats actually increase, and thus the actual potency of DoTs won't increase either.

[Leiloni]

While Haste does serve a similar function to Skill and Spell Speed, they are indeed different parts of math being calculated. DoT potency is based off a function of Skill / Spell speed. Notice that when you use a Haste buff, neither of these stats actually increase, and thus the actual potency of DoTs won't increase either.

Hmm I'll have to take a look at my stat sheet with an Arrow buff when I get home. Never bothered to check.

[Ghishlain]

Hmm I'll have to take a look at my stat sheet with an Arrow buff when I get home. Never bothered to check.

Since you have ACN leveled based on your Lodestone, I'm going to assume you have SCH unlocked. Just pop Selene and use Fey Wind and away you go Much better than hoping you pull Arrow, since RNG can be a pain to deal with. >>;

[Leiloni]

Since you have ACN leveled based on your Lodestone, I'm going to assume you have SCH unlocked. Just pop Selene and use Fey Wind and away you go Much better than hoping you pull Arrow, since RNG can be a pain to deal with. >>;

Yea I have SCH. I had all the magic jobs at 50 pre-3.0 before leveling AST. SCH was actually my first one before switching to WHM haha.

[RichardButte]

Remember in math, you always want to try to calculate like for like as much as possible.

Math out all 8 and you've got it.

Increasing the DPS of 8 players by 1.5% each is more beneficial than increasing the DPS of one player by 11.1%. That's the point I'm trying to make.

but again, single target DPS buffs are worthless in 8-man parties anyway.

Well, they aren't unless they do a significant increase in DPS, but the AST's definitely don't do that.

[Ghishlain]

Math out all 8 and you've got it.

Increasing the DPS of 8 players by 1.5% each is more beneficial than increasing the DPS of one player by 11.1%. That's the point I'm trying to make.

It is. I'm just trying to indicate to you that by increasing everyone's DPS by 1.5% does NOT increase the raid DPS by 12% like you have incorrectly stated. It only increases raid DPS by 1.5%.

If you're going to try to argue math, please at least use the right terminology and methodology ^^;

[Staris]

I was focusing on our base heals because we don't have any reliable cool downs to increase HPS. The point is that it takes more time to do what Scholars or White Mages can currently do, which is horrible because if you throw mana out the window, we're always doing more for less.

Synastry is a realistic 50% healing increase on 2 tank fights (almost all of them) making it one of the best healing cds currently in the game.
Considering the amount of overhealing for whitemage, healing 5 % faster for 5 % less is a buff.
MP is only an issue for bad healers of any class (and has been since 2.0).

We are clearly not a SCH replacement, hell 2 SCH might be ideal for many fights. But easily a better whm for any real progression.

If you can't see that your not even in the game.

[GideonHighmourn]

Synastry is a realistic 50% healing increase on 2 tank fights (almost all of them) making it one of the best healing cds currently in the game.
Considering the amount of overhealing for whitemage, healing 5 % faster for 5 % less is a buff.
MP is only an issue for bad healers of any class (and has been since 2.0).

We are clearly not a SCH replacement, hell 2 SCH might be ideal for many fights. But easily a better whm for any real progression.

If you can't see that your not even in the game.

AST better than WHM for healing/progression? You can't actually be serious.

Sorry, WHM is hands down 100% better than AST for progression. AST only becomes a viable alternative once it's "on farm" and everyone can play the fight perfectly, and then it's just icing on the cake when paired with a SCH.