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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyburz View Post
    Stuff about healing.
    Indeed, comrade. We must exercise utmost vigilancy in keeping the valiant tanks healthy at all times. We will never know if the very next attack suffered at the hands of the foul creature will result in our Paladin being smited; after all, he is tasked with the arduous of task of tanking through the continuous torrent of auto-attacks, with only Embrace, Regen and continuous heals by two of us healers by his side. Remain ever steadfast and do not succumb to the diabolical urges of destruction, for quickening the task of the soldiers on the field is not our calling.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil View Post
    Indeed, comrade. We must exercise utmost vigilancy in keeping the valiant tanks healthy at all times. We will never know if the very next attack suffered at the hands of the foul creature will result in our Paladin being smited; after all, he is tasked with the arduous of task of tanking through the continuous torrent of auto-attacks, with only Embrace, Regen and continuous heals by two of us healers by his side. Remain ever steadfast and do not succumb to the diabolical urges of destruction, for quickening the task of the soldiers on the field is not our calling.
    Hey wouldnt you know it? SE decided to make raid wide damage hurt. Good thing I managed to use Fey Covenant, sacred soil, and Virus, and spent time casting physick getting everyone to full instead of throwing dots before the boss went invulnerable, otherwise those 3 dps left with under 100 health due to (raise sickness/ low hp base/ couple pieces of gear not highest) would have bitten the dust. And even if after all that and the party is left with 20% hp on the lowest person, better safe then sorry.You had no way of knowing what damage was incoming. If I knew beforehand it would do 9205 damage and the dps had 9206/10205 hp, then I could have just ignored healing him. But I cant predict the future, so yeah. Did my job
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  3. #63
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    I'm afraid you misunderstand, dear healer friend.

    The healer's DPS is the single most decisive factor for the raid, and your entire raid should revolve around maximizing the healer's DPS. As tanks, you should willingly die for the healer to maintain their DoTs. Your co-healer should be going oom when the boss still has 50% HP for you to squeeze in three more Broils. If mechanics need to handled, the damage dealers should do so instead, because the healer's DPS is more important than the actual damage dealers' DPS. If you succesfully do an Assize crit, the whole raid should stop doing what it's doing and bow down before your superiority, because in the end, they're all base beasts that will resort to murderous violence to win your divine favour.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyburz View Post
    You had no way of knowing what damage was incoming.
    Yes I did, this game is very scripted. You optimize the way you play with the normal/optimal outcomes in mind, with a plan B at the ready. Immediately going all tinfoilhait-mode with "what if damage happens?" doesn't help anyone over time; you could lessen your overhealing, plan better and just generally being more proactive and we'd all be happier. A part of healing awareness is also knowing when not to heal. I usually like to write bibles on the forum but I've touched on some of this before in my earlier posts, like, here (although the topic is different).
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    If mechanics need to handled, the damage dealers should do so instead, because the healer's DPS is more important than the actual damage dealers' DPS.
    What the hell are you talking about? The whole reason why the healer passes the rod back and forth on turn 12 is so the dps can maintain their dps, because theirs is WAY higher then yours. Sure, lets have the monk pass the rod to the scholar, instead of the scholar taking it from the monk! Why have the scholar pass it and take it from the black mage, when the monk can just throw away his greased lightning! What an ingenious idea!

    FFS man
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  6. #66
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    You don't seem to realise you're being ridiculed
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  7. #67
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    I have read the post you linked tranquil. While I admit I need to figure out a better way to manage my fairy's embrace (i wish she would just do zero healing if put on obey) here's the problem. You play proactively, I play reactivity.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    You don't seem to realise you're being ridiculed
    Duh. Instead of providing an actual answer, they decide to post nonsensical jibberish.

    I dont care if they post garbage on the forum. But I do care if someone else actually believes that garbage.

    Honestly, SE should just make it so that upon entering 8 man content, all healer's accuracy drops to 1. And everything that isnt the boss has an accuracy requirement of 1. And Energy Drain gives mp regardless if you hit the enemy or not. And I guess assize could hit the boss. Doesnt get more clear then that.
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    Last edited by keyburz; 07-15-2015 at 08:59 PM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyburz View Post
    Duh. Instead of providing an actual answer, they decide to post nonsensical jibberish.

    I dont care if they post garbage on the forum. But I do care if someone else actually believes that garbage.

    I'm glad you realise they're posting "nonsensical jibberish" and "garbage", because they're summing up everything you claimed in this topic
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    I'm glad you realise they're posting "nonsensical jibberish" and "garbage", because they're summing up everything you claimed in this topic
    OK whatever im done with this. 5am and im going to sleep. If you honestly think healers should dps then whatever, go dps. Dont heal someone. Pass the rod to the monk. Wipe the raid. Because I sure as hell havent cleared all content before Heavensward hit. I dont fucking care.

    Honestly, SE should just make it so that upon entering 8 man content, all healer's accuracy drops to 1. And everything that isnt the boss has an accuracy requirement of 1. And Energy Drain gives mp regardless if you hit the enemy or not. And I guess assize could hit the boss. Doesnt get more clear then that.
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