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  1. #41
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    Seeri's Avatar
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    Seeri Ni'ara
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Tanks thinking they have a bad healer because you allow them to get low hp in dungeons, when you are doing it to get dps in.
    On the flip side, healers who let their tank drop lower than needed when they could cast fewer heals at a time but with a higher frequency and end up with the same dps.
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  2. #42
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Yes, dps being out of range peeves me off. That's the main reason I play sch, because my fairy can fly over and heal those sods, and I don't have to move 8D
    But yeah, whms that don't use stoneskin II. *^* I set up the protect, all you gotta do is use stoneskin II! *5 minutes later* Uhhmm.... Guess I'll stoneskin... lol.. Darnit, you used stoneskin 2 when I was casting it on the last person... -.-

    Also, after everyone is buffed, the tank sits there... and only pulls when the galvanise has 1 second left on the clock, whilst I am re-casting it.... *succor goes on as the boss is pulled* Oh hello boss, nice of you to say Hi to me, and not the tank behind you. Oh it's okay, I really don't mind that me and the party have now been cleaved. *^*
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 07-15-2015 at 01:47 PM.

  3. #43
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    Ereavin's Avatar
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    Reanel Aelius
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
    -Tank that run ahead without letting me cast any single buff, not using any cd on hard pulls, undergeared but acts like a pro
    -Co-Healer that complains that Tanks didn't do their job grabbing aggro when he/she casting Medica II before pulling. (Happens a lot in Trial Roulette lately, especially Thornmarch)
    -DPS that keeps dying with the same mechanics, out of range of healing, refuse to AoE

    Sums up my DF experience so far
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  4. #44
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Healers, of all things, that do not understand when to and when not to apply the healing over time.
    It's not farfetched.

    DO: Apply a regen on member(s) who consistently takes damage throughout the fight. Most commonly your tank.

    DON'T: Apply a regen when damage is a super long time away or in no way are taking damage at all.
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    Last edited by RiisWolf; 07-15-2015 at 02:58 PM.

  5. #45
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Warrior Lv 80
    You say:
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    It actually makes a big difference in dps, I've seen tanks go from 200-300 dps in vit accessories to anear 500 with str. And pld is hardly behind war/drk with the new dps rotations.

    Though I do think they should only use 1-3 str accessories, more hp means more dps from healers.
    To:
    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    Pure STR tanks? But doesn't do crap? Get ready to heal the tank even more and everyone else. And everyone is OK with that, and I'm not OK with that.
    Bonus points if the tank assumes it's a perfect world. Even more if the tank is a paladin.
    None of what you said matters when they don't use it. Plus more power= more room for more and better lifesteal, which paladins can't spam. Sure more threat and better healing from their new spell, but if you got a pure STR paladin who fails to maintain control, thanks to inaction, then you got a real gift. A terrible, TERRIBLE gift.

    I did bash pure VIT tanks too in this thread.C:
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  6. #46
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Oh, another thing (on SCH) that has been driving me crazy. Everyone gets ready for battle, we get Protect, we get Stoneskin. Ready check commenced. So, it looks like we're all set to go. So, I Adlo and Eye for an Eye and then use Deployment Tactics. Then we f***ing stand there waiting and waiting while the tanks don't pull, and it ends up completely wasting Adlo/E4E on everyone, and thus a waste of Deployment.
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  7. #47
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Speaking of SCHs. When you compare a WHM's Cure 2 and SCH's Aldoquium, you find the two spells are similar in power. Cure 2 being 650, and Aldoquium being 600 (300 Direct Heal+300 Barrier (1.5x2 if it crits which means triple the barrier if the math is sound)).

    What's really grinding my gears is when I see SCH's completely forsake Aldoquium because they look at only the 300 potency number it notes.

    (If something's easy and I don't need it, I just use it for the lolz, not be barely decent at it.)
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  8. #48
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    Grr

    When the tank doesn't let your MP recover after an epic battle >:/
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  9. #49
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 91
    Healers- who like to regen before pulls and blame tanks because they got agro or die :P
    Healers- Who like to spam medica II and wonder why they are oom or take agro on start of pull
    Healers- WHM who spam cure II, they do not even use Cure I for the free cure II procs
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  10. #50
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    People who instantly run off at the start of the dungeon and pull everything then start asking for protect in chat.

    DPS who are too lazy to peel adds off the Healer in A4 or claim they can't because Medica II is apparently too strong when a single attack will get aggro.

    People who tunnel vision and can't see a fight. The Healers see everything it's their job so they can see when you are slacking and derping.

    Diva Tanks who whine about everything when most of the wipes are their own fault because they overrate themselves.

    WHM's who never use regen or medica II.

    People who start asking for a rez in chat. Seriously shut up if you died you will get a raise when it's safe and you won't instantly die in 2 seconds.

    Tanks who stand there looking at each other for what feels like an eternity waiting for each other to take the MT role.

    WHM's who think that them having no mana and my mana bar being almost full means they are doing all the work. It just makes you crap. I've even had other people in the group probably friends of manaless WHM like "Lul why don't you try helping out more? How is your mana bar so full!?"......Because I know how to manage my mana.

    Tanks who pull mobs then stop. Cleric stance on and DPS rotation starts. Suddenly out of nowhere Tank takes off and pulls the next room and is dead before I can get LoS to heal them. Then comes the Tank in chat "Lol guess we have a trash healer I'll pull one mob at a time to make it easy on you k? lulul" I HOPE YOU DIE IN A HORRIBLE FIRE.

    When the MT dies in a 24 man raid because their party's Healers went down then you question why nobody else thought to heal the MT and they say he's not in their party. Four Healers alive and nobody thought keeping the MT up while the dead Healers were raised was a good idea. Even before that everyone should keep an eye on the MT and WHM's should have regen on them. If the MT dies then several people are likely going to get cleaved and die.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 07-16-2015 at 10:58 AM.

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