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    Quote Originally Posted by iMark521 View Post
    As a dark knight myself, I get really frustrated when I see other drks using full strength accessories in low level dungeons (and when asked to switch to vit accessories so I can heal them efficiently if I'm healing, they tell me to gtfo and learn how to heal). Hello, silly people, you're supposed to be a tank. You SHOULD have two sets of accessories, strength for easy solo stuff/unsynced dungeons, and vit to help out your healers, especially in low level dungeons. Seems like I'm only one of the few tanks who actually knows this...
    VIT doesn't really help out your healers. The mobs dying faster does. Especially in low level dungeons, I would rather one mob die faster then my tank having a slightly bigger HP pool. Then again, I am rather vigilant as a healer. I don't sit and wait until they are almost dead.

    Honestly, I think it is better for them in the end.

    They should learn to wipe and learn to be on edge with healing rather then becoming lazy.
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    VIT doesn't really help out your healers. The mobs dying faster does. Especially in low level dungeons, I would rather one mob die faster then my tank having a slightly bigger HP pool. Then again, I am rather vigilant as a healer. I don't sit and wait until they are almost dead.

    Honestly, I think it is better for them in the end.
    I'm not disagreeing with you about killing things faster (I use strength in certain dungeons as well, more so on bosses when I'm not tanking 15 mobs at once), but when I see a tank with the same hp as a dragoon or monk in a synced LOW LEVEL DUNGEON, such as sastasha or brayflox, then there is a problem. Sure, it's healable for players such as you or myself (meaning we're awesome), but how do you expect someone with a sprout beside their name who is still getting used to the game to heal a tank with the same, or lower hp than a melee dps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iMark521 View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with you about killing things faster (I use strength in certain dungeons as well, more so on bosses when I'm not tanking 15 mobs at once), but when I see a tank with the same hp as a dragoon or monk in a synced LOW LEVEL DUNGEON, such as sastasha or brayflox, then there is a problem. Sure, it's healable for players such as you or myself (meaning we're awesome), but how do you expect someone with a sprout beside their name who is still getting used to the game to heal a tank with the same, or lower hp than a melee dps?
    And i've healed it low level (Brayflox!) with a "BLACK MAGE" tanking. Who cares? Its low level, the healer shouldn't have a problem with it if they are keeping up with heals. Only lazy healers have issues.
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by iMark521 View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with you about killing things faster (I use strength in certain dungeons as well, more so on bosses when I'm not tanking 15 mobs at once), but when I see a tank with the same hp as a dragoon or monk in a synced LOW LEVEL DUNGEON, such as sastasha or brayflox, then there is a problem. Sure, it's healable for players such as you or myself (meaning we're awesome), but how do you expect someone with a sprout beside their name who is still getting used to the game to heal a tank with the same, or lower hp than a melee dps?
    Gear when you sync is now stronger than it used to be in 2.0. Low level content was already easy on the healers (SCH fairy can heal almost everything below brayflox), and now it's even easier. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone that can find their cure button and target the right person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    VIT doesn't really help out your healers. The mobs dying faster does. Especially in low level dungeons, I would rather one mob die faster then my tank having a slightly bigger HP pool. Then again, I am rather vigilant as a healer. I don't sit and wait until they are almost dead.

    Honestly, I think it is better for them in the end.

    They should learn to wipe and learn to be on edge with healing rather then becoming lazy.
    I disagree. GCD is by far the most important thing to a healer. I tried to heal a full str DRK through Vault and 9.7k hp did not cut it for the final boss. I could not spare one global cooldown to do anything other than spam heals on him. HP does help your healer. > <
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huneidu View Post
    I disagree. GCD is by far the most important thing to a healer. I tried to heal a full str DRK through Vault and 9.7k hp did not cut it for the final boss. I could not spare one global cooldown to do anything other than spam heals on him. HP does help your healer. > <
    I've never ran Vault in anything but full strength, as either a DRK or a WAR. Never had any problem with it. They just need to not get hit and be on it with their cooldowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huneidu View Post
    I disagree. GCD is by far the most important thing to a healer. I tried to heal a full str DRK through Vault and 9.7k hp did not cut it for the final boss. I could not spare one global cooldown to do anything other than spam heals on him. HP does help your healer. > <
    Adjusting to compensate for healer skill level is also a part of good tanking. I may toss on a vit accessory or two if it is apparent that the healer can't keep up.

    I usually give people the benefit of the doubt first though. If the healer is good enough, there isn't a 4 man dungeon in the game that can't be tanked in full str accessories.
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