SMNs, get used to the current Egis.

[MugenMugetsu]

We definitely need new egis. I was very disappointed that there were no new egis added with the expansion. At the very least Ramuh, Shiva, and Levi should have been added and could have easily filled the Ranged/Magic, Tank, and DPS roles that Garuda, Titan, and Ifrit currently fill now. I understand that a lot of work was put into the expansion, but it just feels like Smn was an afterthought and I feel that attention to "summoning" should have been more of a focus when adding more Smn abilities. As with other primals, I feel that when a Smn defeats a primal, it only seems natural that there should be an ability for the Smn to make a pact with the primal for the primal to lend it's essence to assist the Smn in battle. With Smn being a brand new Job added for A Realm Reborn it seems that SE would really want to flesh out this new Job, which was not available during 1.0, however it seems that they neglected to take the proper action necessary to truly flesh out Smn to continue to allow it to be the Job that it is intended to be. Glamouring egis is a cool idea and all, but to me it seems like Smn deserves more attention and more story appropriate reasons for why they are able to summon an egi that looks like Ramuh, Shiva, Levi etc. such as quests like the quests where the Smn has to go face the essence of the primal in a solo battle and "subdue" the essence by defeating it, and after doing so the essence of the primal lends itself to the Smn to be used in battle. Throwing in a, "Hey you can now just glamour your existing egis, without the need to actually subdue the essence of the primals.", like I mentioned, just seems like a cheap, easy, way out of actually giving us more quests and more egi fights, which we should have to complete before being able to use egis of other primals.

[Dree-Elle]

We get to summon Bahamut's decapitated head now...

Only if you have Effects turned ON. As a result, I've never seen the presumed awesomeness; I prefer the Egis, at least I can see them. *shrug*

[Shougun]

I have patience, I can wait and am excited when I hear a "most likely, given time" with a concern though.

We'll (likely) get glamours for egis, but their looks are not decided. Its fine if they add more similar cute(?) crystal pudgy babies.. but please /also/ add something more defined and regal.

Even if I have to hunt them down like rare pokemon and take blue mage smashings to the face I'd be happy to see something a bit more "not FFXIV's so far existing egis". More "the other" FF summoners, visually speaking at least. Not saying 100% sized primals, personally I like the zodiac of FFXII so for myself I wouldn't mind bit greater variation of visuals either.

Given lore ofc, as it seems primals are just a big ball of faith power (and not an actual personable entity, minus the personable aspects given by the faith wielders), so why not a fenrir or diablos primal-egi if you really wanted and were strong enough - could even have a Hildibrand primal lol (please no... just because he is so special but, lol).

[Havenae]

I love how everyone is so gloom and doom about this egi glamour system.

It's a thing that started as a 'what if'. It was never a committed thing, but he said specifically 'we need to start working on this' and talked about how they should implement it.

So it's going to happen, but like he Said it's going to be a lot of work.

To be honest with you summoner don't need 'new egis'. Theres only so many archetypes you can fit into for a pet. Skins is the next best thing because it will give you some indivuality. When I first heard of it I was angry as well. I didn't like it. But I thought about it and it grew on me. Why do I need 20 different types of spells that summon something that does pretty much the same thing as the other 19? Ones a tank, ones a melee dps, another is ranged. Maybe they should have different focuses.. Maybe ones all damage maybe one buffs.. But maybe they can still do that with glamour.

Why don't we wait and see what they do before we get those sticks in our asses all bent out of shape.

[Lemuria]

Why is Egi appearance such a big deal? Personally, I'd be happier knowing my Egi's actually made a decent contribution moreso than having it look like Leviathan or something. Having a pet that looks awesome but still hits like a child isn't exactly something I'd get excited over.

[Sylve]

That'd be horrible! Do you know there are people out there who actually enjoy PET classes.. if you dont... dont play it..



It is okay.. still the egis are ugly and nothing near enjoyable like the avatar pets in FFXI..
and these are PS2 graphics... the character model designers did an awesome job with the avatars of FFXI Summoner.. in FFXIV quietly poor.

Final Fantasy 11 Online - Summoner Avatars Youtube

But they put so much effort into the summon models they forgot to add gameplay for the Summoner player itself :P

Edit:
Snark aside, I'm glad that they would rather delay it and give us something great than rush it and give us something really halfassed.

[Kuponutz]

Over a year ago we were promised Levi and Shiva egi's (Shiva was "a cute girl from ice"). They said couldn't do it until xpac. Of course right before xpac we got the news of no more egis but we'd have the glamour. It's getting really freaking annoying to be constantly lied to. It's not "misleading", it's not even "lying by omission" it is flat out lies and empty promises. Why even mention the glamour thing if there had been ZERO work done on it? Did the devs just wake up on the morning of the stream and think "SMNs are gonna be mad about the egis, tell them we'll give them glamours!"?

Instead of over-promising and under-delivering please just stop saying anything at all until it's ready to be patched in.

I don't want to sound ungrateful for the positive changes we got to abilities etc, I could not be more pleased with the combat skills, but please stop promising us new stuff in regards to the egis unless there's actually solid progress being made on it.

[adn]

SMN straight up does not need new egis lol. Glamours sure, but what exactly would a new egi do? They already have a ranged pet, a melee pet, and a tank pet. You can't have a healing/support pet because that's the SCH niche. If anything SCH should get a third fairy to to match SMN's 3 egis.

I do agree it would be super nice if they added glamours, but honestly after the huge buffs SMN got I really don't think this level of complaining is warranted.

[Exodus-E]

Why is Egi appearance such a big deal? Personally, I'd be happier knowing my Egi's actually made a decent contribution moreso than having it look like Leviathan or something. Having a pet that looks awesome but still hits like a child isn't exactly something I'd get excited over.

Simple: they assured us we'd get a Ramuh/Leviathan-Egi (at the very least) for the expansion.
But now that it's out, and given their new stance on not introducing any more Egis (focusing on the Summoners themselves instead), it's no wonder why the Egi-glamour system is such a big deal.

The Caster/Tank/Attacker-based pets are the only ones we'll be using for the foreseeable future, so changing their skins to match the remaining primals we've beaten before seems both, appropriate and overdue.

[Kuponutz]

It is okay.. still the egis are ugly and nothing near enjoyable like the avatar pets in FFXI..
and these are PS2 graphics... the character model designers did an awesome job with the avatars of FFXI Summoner.. in FFXIV quietly poor.

Final Fantasy 11 Online - Summoner Avatars Youtube

I wish I could 'like' this more than once. If the XI devs could do it with PS2 and dial-up or low end DSL then you would think it would be manageable to do a similar thing with XIV. Technology has come a long way in 13 years.