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  1. #101
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Intellion View Post
    If Bards like Minuet, more power to them. Doesn't necessarily mean that I agree to Minuet.
    when bard because a class i will agree with you

    it does if you want to be a good bard.

    not using it is nothing but a dps loss no matter what.
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  2. #102
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    Eh, honestly, I don't care about your take on it. You don't like how it plays and I like how it looks. Bard looks pretty fun to me. Not to everyone's personal taste, I'd wager.
    Neither do I when it comes to personal preference. You like bow mage? Good for you, your preference. I do not like bow mage, my preference. Forum is for opinions, you post because you like it while I post because I do not like it. I'm sure this is pretty easy to understand.

    However, undeniably there are trolls in the forums such as this guy here who is condescending and being a douche.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    yes it is get over it.

    Luckily for us, all that matters is what the Japanese Bards are concerned about and luckily their concern aligns with ours Hence, SE is currently still monitoring our job.
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    Last edited by FateAudax; 07-09-2015 at 07:32 PM.

  3. #103
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    Intellion's Avatar
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    Remi Myrtoa
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    when bard because a class i will agree with you

    it does if you want to be a good bard.

    not using it is nothing but a dps loss no matter what.
    Oh, if only the Bard issue was actually THAT simple. I wish it was.

    But it's not.

    Just shows how much credibility you have. Oh right, none.

    Another null-and-void claim. If you think your claims are not worthless and that you're a Bard "expert," prove it.

    The first step would be knowing the class, which would require you to spend time with it and get it to 60. No Lv 60 Bard = No credibility on subject matter.

    Come back to me once you have actual credentials.

    Good day.
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  4. #104
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Alright, since it's come to having the credentials, I'll step in: I went from BRD to MCH almost right away. While fundamentally the same, they're also different enough.

    Some key points:
    - I still don't need to move much.
    - Using Gauss, and the proc-stacking rotation I created (1-2-1-3-2-3) truly does increase my DPS. Also works even without Gauss but to obviously less potency.
    - I could argue it generally takes less than a GCD to move yourself out of harm's way (under normal circumstances), and with 1.5 sec cast times the DPS loss for having to move is negligible.
    - While the damage increase IS good, it's not always practical to use Gauss/Minuet.

    I would say it's less "L2P" and more learn to adapt.
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  5. #105
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Intellion View Post
    =Come back to me once you have actual credentials.
    it is that simple seriously, you have said nothing to refute anything but i am lvl 60.

    you can repeat that 1000000 times won't make me wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Intellion View Post
    The first step would be knowing the class
    archer is a class bard is a job.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 07-09-2015 at 07:36 PM.

  6. #106
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    it is that simple seriously, you have said nothing to refute anything but i am lvl 60.

    you can repeat that 1000000 times won't make me wrong.
    Doesn't make you right either Mr.Troll
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  7. #107
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    it is that simple seriously, you have said nothing to refute anything but i am lvl 60.

    you can repeat that 1000000 times won't make me wrong.
    You're a level 24 Archer.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiker View Post
    You're a level 24 Archer.
    oh look another without an actual argument hello

    Quote Originally Posted by FateAudax View Post
    Doesn't make you right either Mr.Troll
    haven't shown any proof that i am wrong sooooo yes it does
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  9. #109
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    Intellion's Avatar
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    it is that simple seriously, you have said nothing to refute anything but i am lvl 60.

    you can repeat that 1000000 times won't make me wrong.
    Sorry. Doubling-down does not support your case.

    Having strong opinions on something but no knowledge on it is bad enough. Adding a "I'm right, you're wrong!" mentality only harms your case. Especially when you can't even prove what makes you "right."

    Oh, right. Because you don't have credibility. Null-and-void, null-and-void, etc. etc.

    Of course, unless proven otherwise with actual experience.

    Sorry, but I can't give you a proper discussion. Not now. You're not ready.

    Get your Bard to 60, and we can talk for real.

    Good day!
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  10. #110
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    Dagger Amethyst
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    oh look another without an actual argument hello
    Not arguing. I quite literally stated the obvious. I'm not arguing with you, stating "You're a 24 Archer."

    Just telling you what you are.

    Cute that you're trying to grasp at straws by the way.
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