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  1. #41
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    More STR increases the power of Flash too, as well as Circle of Scorn, and you'll be doing more damage and finishing pulls faster this way. EVERY good tank, whether Warrior, Dark Knight, or Paladin, should have two sets of trinkets (Assuming they aren't using melded crafted trinkets) to switch in and out of for heavy damage and heavy health.
    Just wondering, has anyone actually parsed their dps in AOE trash pulls (note, not single target boss fights, but AOE situations) with STR accessories and VIT accessories and proven that there's a significant dps increase? With only CoS, a 250 potency skill that we use probably only once in a pull, I find it hard to believe that our dps would change much with full STR accessories.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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  2. #42
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    Knoahl's Avatar
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    Teah Bloodwrath
    World
    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 71
    After flash->CoS->flash OGCD weaving Has anyone tried multi-doting with Goring blade? Obviously flash doesnt interupt combos so could act as a filler and you gain mana back as you refresh dots on new targets, perhaps it would make skill speed worth while taking up for quicker dot set up. Just an idea~
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  3. #43
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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    I think PLD is fine as is. If I were to make any changes to AE enmity, I would just give flash or CoS (but not both) +1 to their enmity modifiers. Just to give less geared players a bit of a fighting chance against well geared dps.
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  4. #44
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    turning an existing paladin ability into an aoe would just lower their dps, are aoes really so good that you'd want to be weaker in exchange? lol
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  5. #45
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    ZhycranaDranix's Avatar
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    Zhycrana Dranix
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I think it should be stance based on Circle of Scorn

    Shield Oath- Each tick adds enmity plus dmg

    Sword Oath- The Potency of the DoT overall is increased .....there problem solved
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  6. #46
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    SirTaint's Avatar
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Knoahl View Post
    After flash->CoS->flash OGCD weaving Has anyone tried multi-doting with Goring blade? Obviously flash doesnt interupt combos so could act as a filler and you gain mana back as you refresh dots on new targets, perhaps it would make skill speed worth while taking up for quicker dot set up. Just an idea~

    That's exactly what I do, save Swipes for any mob that DPS are singling out. Sometimes I'll have to Halone if the DPS are sloppy and not watching their agro.
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  7. #47
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    RiisWolf's Avatar
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    #2 Reason why I am not fond of Paladin. Not very effective at AoE Threat, or just threat at all. Remember all the patch buffs Paladins got compared to the warrior? I don't care who made what work before the patches, none of it was decent. Otherwise they wouldn't have been buffed in the first place.

    (#1 Reason is over relying on over minute long CDs and RNG passives to save them, so Thank you HW for adding Shelltron cause PLDs NEED it)

    Their AoE damage is down right inept, meaning that things will take longer, no matter how you go about it. The problem rears its ugly head in cases where a large number of enemies is unavoidable. That number by the way is larger than 4. It's even worse when your stuck with Monks.

    I'm disappointed that they don't even have a circle slash or simple cleave of all things. :C
    Their biggest thing to enmity is annoyingly flash the light of their shining armor at you, ANNOYINGLY!
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  8. #48
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Knoahl View Post
    After flash->CoS->flash OGCD weaving Has anyone tried multi-doting with Goring blade? Obviously flash doesnt interupt combos so could act as a filler and you gain mana back as you refresh dots on new targets, perhaps it would make skill speed worth while taking up for quicker dot set up. Just an idea~
    Before CoS got patched with an increased enmity effect that it already had, it wasn't really gaining or maintaining much agro. With the Gore Blade combo you'll be applying the DoT to every new enemy every 7.5 secs after the first. By which time you've likely lost control of your primary target and/or wasted some time, especially considering how effective CoS was in the past without the enmity upgrade and that the entire Gore Blade combo also does not have an increased enmity.

    I wouldn't try it.
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  9. #49
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    Before CoS got patched with an increased enmity effect that it already had, it wasn't really gaining or maintaining much agro. With the Gore Blade combo you'll be applying the DoT to every new enemy every 7.5 secs after the first. By which time you've likely lost control of your primary target and/or wasted some time, especially considering how effective CoS was in the past without the enmity upgrade and that the entire Gore Blade combo also does not have an increased enmity.

    I wouldn't try it.

    Actually it works great.
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  10. #50
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RiisWolf View Post
    Before CoS got patched with an increased enmity effect that it already had, it wasn't really gaining or maintaining much agro. With the Gore Blade combo you'll be applying the DoT to every new enemy every 7.5 secs after the first. By which time you've likely lost control of your primary target and/or wasted some time, especially considering how effective CoS was in the past without the enmity upgrade and that the entire Gore Blade combo also does not have an increased enmity.

    I wouldn't try it.
    Sounds like someone doesn't know how to play PLD. xD
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