Thavnairian Bustier - evidence that SE adores Gil sellers.

[Lexia]

Yea like some said earlier glamour is the true end game (being sarcastic), but really from what I heard it not hard to make but the mats are stupid hard to get a hold of which is what people are mad about. Also from what I hear is the mats come from new treasure maps which means pretty high chance you won't even get the mats you want.

[jars]

fat cats used to cost 10m

now they cost <1m

welcome to economics? wait it out and the price will go down

[Felis]

fat cats used to cost 10m

now they cost <1m

welcome to economics? wait it out and the price will go down

But then something another new vanity item show up overprized in the MB and we start with a new thread about it.
So long the demand is higher then the supply it will never stop. SE can fix it with bringing vanity items that have low demands from the start (ugly vanity as an example) ^^

[kuikui]

Why you blame SE? Gil sellers and outrageous pricing are due to players. No one else makes a ridiculous farce of the market board. Shellfish greed drives the markets, which is caused by players and crafters. Rmt actually do us a favor by undercutting items down for the rest of us to afford.

[Alise]

Well, someone HAS to craft it right? If that's the case, why not you?

You could go level a crafter/gatherer, look up ways to gather up the materials (XIVDB tends to be good for this), and research crafting rotations and requirements, then try and make them yourself. It isn't really much different from the Spring Dress back in the days of 2.2 or so.

What you lose in the massive time sink, you make up for by not having to pay a single cent of gil. No idea what crafting services are like on your server as well, but depending on how expensive the materials are you could also probably commission a crafter on your server to make you a set.

I do want it too myself, but seeing as I'm not willing to level crafters yet, I am willing to wait until I can...

Because he is a "Normal Players" and those bloody crafters are not :3

[Verdan]

Well no one's gonna buy HQ armour anymore, so crafters have to sell something.

[jars]

Why you blame SE? Gil sellers and outrageous pricing are due to players. No one else makes a ridiculous farce of the market board. Shellfish greed drives the markets, which is caused by players and crafters. Rmt actually do us a favor by undercutting items down for the rest of us to afford.

they also cause inflation by inserting more gil into the market

[Sessurea]

pretty sure the fact that run selling isn't bannable is evidence that se are not serious about taking action against RMT. That guy on odin was selling ravana 12.5m each....come on that's slap in the face obvious x-x And when u ask these ppl how they think their buyers raise the money, same answer every time " crafters xD" pls...

[Reinha]

There's a difference between working for something (that actually helps you in some way, like gear/relic) and stuff being stupidly overpriced that does nothing for you

Uhh... if crafting was the source of BiS gear, I think you (and others of the same opinion) would still complain that it's too much work/gil. Or if there were crafted good looking mounts. The whole point of having crafting in the first place is for it provide exclusive and desired items. It has nothing to do with RMT, but basic game design. If the crafted items were not desired by you and other players, the whole crafting system could as well be removed because it would be a pointless gil sink to level. You people are essentially complaining about crafters having anything meaningful to sell.

[seida]

It's just supply and demand. It'll probably always be pricy, but it'll lower.

It IS really stupid to say, "well if you don't like it go and level weaver yourself!!!" as though that's all there is to it.

But yes, it's difficult to get to the point a) where you can make it and b) can acquire the mats to do so. ESPECIALLY stupid to say leveling crafting costs no money. Sure, if you want it to take a million years.

Do dragonskin maps, try and get silk yourself to sell or give to a crafter you know. I have all level 50 crafters but just can't be bothered anymore. Money goes to those who can, because yeah, it's not easy.