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  1. #61
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Lazy ideas r u kidding no one invites a mnk for mantra. Any healer can and able to heal without mantra. And it's not like I'm suggesting that the healing bonus gets taken away from mantra. Also a lot of monk have ask for chakra gain similar to wrath, you gain per WS . So why not Make that auto similar to defiance. Your just adding more skills which we don't need. Instead of adding why not work the things we have already.
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  2. #62
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    r u kidding no one invites a mnk for mantra
    Are you kidding? Mantra is a very powerful ability, and is extremely useful in the hands of a proficient MNK in progression.
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  3. #63
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    Lazy ideas r u kidding no one invites a mnk for mantra. Any healer can and able to heal without mantra. And it's not like I'm suggesting that the healing bonus gets taken away from mantra. Also a lot of monk have ask for chakra gain similar to wrath, you gain per WS . So why not Make that auto similar to defiance. Your just adding more skills which we don't need. Instead of adding why not work the things we have already.
    People don't invite monks specifically for mantra because high DPS and magic damage reduction tend to overshadow it as reasons to invite a monk. That said, you'd have to be out of your mind if you don't think a whole party convalescence is potentially useful.
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  4. #64
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    Swarley Mcswarlington
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 80
    I've actually sort of quit playing my monk and started leveling other classes because I just don't like it right now. Although they are still one of the top dps classes their strength is still largely based off of how great their 2.0 kit was and how overpowered elixir field is. I do think form shift is amazing and I do actually like the synergy of purification and forbidden chakra, but I think the execution of meditate and the chakra stacks kind of hampers how great the skills could be (the FC animation is so long it delays the use of your next skill and the 7.5 seconds of spam on meditate to get 5 chakra seems very out of place on a class that is supposed to be fast, fluid, and constantly fighting).
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  5. #65
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    Swarley Mcswarlington
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    Zalera
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    I also appreciate the idea behind tornado kick but considering how you generally get more damage from other cooldowns like elixir field (seriously, this move is so op) and forbidden chakra it seems very underwhelming.
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  6. #66
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    Swarley Mcswarlington
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    Anyway, I just hope there are some small quality of life changes to monk because I do really like the class and had very high hopes for the new abilities. But from what other people are saying on the forums and what else I'm seeing online monk might not be on the top of the list (minus changing some sound effects). So I'll probably continue to level my other classes, see if there's anything I like more and go from there.
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  7. #67
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    People don't invite monks specifically for mantra because high DPS and magic damage reduction tend to overshadow it as reasons to invite a monk. That said, you'd have to be out of your mind if you don't think a whole party convalescence is potentially useful.
    Ok I'm not saying mantra is garbage and trust I use it whenever is up but that's not the point, if there's a pick of 1 melee to fill in the party drg nin mnk, no one would and invite mnk because of " hey let's invite the mnk for mantra" lol, it's either drg or nin that will get pick specially if there's a drk n the party. Again mantra is great but at this moment it's not a mnk saving grace. So don't come and hate on me. I'll always play a mnk and be a mnk, I'm just not blinded that's all.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwarleyMcSwarls View Post
    Anyway, I just hope there are some small quality of life changes to monk because I do really like the class and had very high hopes for the new abilities. But from what other people are saying on the forums and what else I'm seeing online monk might not be on the top of the list (minus changing some sound effects). So I'll probably continue to level my other classes, see if there's anything I like more and go from there.
    At this moment out of the 3 melee we r in 3rd place when it comes to burst and sustain dps , unless a video is shown. I've been looking around and haven't seen it. There's some 1.140k 3 min for mnk but I've seen a nin for 3 min 1.540k . Drg did 1.2k 3 min by Aurily and a 1.9k burst on nin. Our best is 1.4k burst but that's understandable since mnk r not bursting class. But sustain we should be up there. If someone can beat a 1.2k drg by Aurily and post it that would be great.
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  9. #69
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    All MNK needs is for meditate to be off the gcd. It's absolutely ridiculous that its on the gcd, maybe increase the cd a little or just make it like NINs ninjutsu and give fobidden chakra a min cd. As for tornado kick, the potency could be more but i do like it. Elixer Field and Form Change are incredible. But ffs change meditate!
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  10. #70
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    K'aad Quik'of
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 80
    mediation should've been more like gaining stack like a warrior's wrath and in exchange slightly drop the potency of the skill that goes off it, or use all 5 to gain a greased stack cause i still lose stack when trying to handle mechanics and its a bother. This way it also gives the choice of popping tp regen or using a super skill

    they should also make form shift animation faster like how they did with the warrior overpower, as far as i know it feels like its better to go through the skills itself than use it
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