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  1. #121
    Player Nadirah's Avatar
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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordoftheapes79 View Post
    Really they need to reevaluate the house size ratios and not just add carbon copies. Apply them on a sever by server basis and add in property taxes. Have them withdrawn automatically from the fc chest, once an inactive fc's coffers are empty, give them 30 days to come up with the gil or loose it. If they're caught buying gil to pay it they loose it no matter what.
    Just add instanced housing and be done with it.
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  2. #122
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    Madjames's Avatar
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    Bathu'ra Lihzeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Just add instanced housing and be done with it.
    No, will never support instanced houseing. Housing is not something that should be instanced.

    All we need is an inactive housing plot relinquish system and it will be good to go.
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  3. #123
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    The whole basis of this thread is ridiculous.

    Taking something away from players because you feel you deserve it more and they aren't using it the way you think they should? Well sucks to be you. Those players worked for (and yes, were LUCKY enough to get) the houses that they have. Those shouldn't just be snatched away. This isn't the individual players fault so don't go away saying that's who we should punish.

    This is SE fault. This is an SE problem. They need to add more housing, period.
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  4. #124
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    I'm in a small FC (10 members) We're all friends IRL and we worked hard to get the money for a medium house. Not even a week after we bought it all of the houses on our server just POOF so we felt pretty lucky on that front. For about a month and a half, maybe two, before Heavensward almost all of the people in our FC were completely inactive. Because we were just waiting. Saying someone should implicate a system that fucks with our house just because we were waiting to play (thus making ourselves inactive in the eyes of the great big judgmental players) is not only selfish of you, it's fucked up.
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  5. #125
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by RueBee View Post
    The whole basis of this thread is ridiculous.

    Taking something away from players because you feel you deserve it more and they aren't using it the way you think they should? Well sucks to be you. Those players worked for (and yes, were LUCKY enough to get) the houses that they have. Those shouldn't just be snatched away. This isn't the individual players fault so don't go away saying that's who we should punish.

    This is SE fault. This is an SE problem. They need to add more housing, period.
    It's kind of obvious you haven't read the thread as most people have already agreed that a timeframe of 90 days inactivity would be the bare minimum to enforce the relinquishing of a house.

    But since you didn't bother to read, let's put it this way. There's a hard limit on how many wards SE can add due to hardware limitations. That means NO new wards or very few. Now you are saying that if someone buys a house then quits the game that house should sit there empty for the rest of the game's lifetime? Over several years you may see entire wards sitting abandoned because everyone that owns houses in them quit the game for whatever reason. You really think it is fair for people that aren't playing the game to be able to deny a finite resource to those that are? In my opinion it would be people such as yourself that oppose a forced relinquish of housing from inactive accounts that are being selfish here.
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    Last edited by Alberel; 06-30-2015 at 11:59 AM.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    You really think it is fair for people that aren't playing the game to be able to deny a finite resource to those that are? In my opinion it would be people such as yourself that oppose a forced relinquish of housing from inactive accounts that are being selfish here.
    Isn't there already a time limit set for when you haven't been subscribed for X amount of days your charas are wiped?

    I do believe that if you're paying the monthly subscription fee that it does not matter how active you are or aren't in-game. You've paid just as much as anyone else and what you do with what you have earned in-game if your business as long as it's not against any rules.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by RueBee View Post
    Isn't there already a time limit set for when you haven't been subscribed for X amount of days your charas are wiped?

    I do believe that if you're paying the monthly subscription fee that it does not matter how active you are or aren't in-game. You've paid just as much as anyone else and what you do with what you have earned in-game if your business as long as it's not against any rules.
    This should be tied to your SUBSCRIPTION! Not just how long you have not logged in.

    If you keep your sub going and you continue to be a paying customer and support the game, you should be allowed to keep your house and everything else.

    If you unsub and are gone for 90 days, then you should lost your house end of story.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madjames View Post
    If you unsub and are gone for 90 days, then you should lost your house end of story.
    And how would this work for a FC? If the leader didn't sub for 90 days? Well, that doesn't seem fair to the other members. If EVERYONE in the FC doesn't sub for 90 days? Well, that just seems exceedingly unlikely.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madjames View Post
    No, will never support instanced houseing. Housing is not something that should be instanced.
    Why? Why is it so important to NOT instance housing so everyone can have a house? I don't understand this insistence on keeping these 'neighborhoods'. Most of you are complaining that they are empty anyway. If you want to see strangers running about, just go to a city.

    Proper instanced housing that isn't already tied to existing housing is something we need. This whole thing is just... just silly.
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by RueBee View Post
    And how would this work for a FC? If the leader didn't sub for 90 days? Well, that doesn't seem fair to the other members. If EVERYONE in the FC doesn't sub for 90 days? Well, that just seems exceedingly unlikely.
    the leader gets demoted after a set amount of time, so that's how it would work anyway. they would have to demote through the entire FC first.

    30 days unsubbed works for me, if they're not paying they don't get to keep it.

    but i'm also a big proponent for housing credits.
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