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  1. #301
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    Panasync's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Panasync Dilaudid
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    "playing your job to it's full potential"
    Post your full potential please. I'd actually rather enjoy a video of you sitting in WM the entire RavanaEX and doing monster deeps.
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  2. #302
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    yamochan's Avatar
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    Yamo Tsukamoto
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    i would certainly like to see that no jokes here i rly would if u have the tools to do so make 2 vids plz one with WM one without id be glad to see that ( i cant do it for my pc is very crappy and im not in ravana theritory just now -.-*)
    in other thoughs i have some idea to fix the bards dps problems and i would wish to have some feedback to that. its kinda my idea from 2days ago...
    all SE has to change is WM to this:
    - 10% dmg boost instead of 20 but you buff it voice.
    - enable auto attacks while WM is on.
    - give cast times to only the new skills we got (for some ppl like to stand and fire and im ok with that as long as its only sometimes.

    that way we kinda get our old playstyle back while beeing able to use the new skills the way SE wanted them to work. then it will be just some tweaking of the numbers and bard should be fine
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    Last edited by yamochan; 06-30-2015 at 04:24 AM.
    I am the bone of my sword
    Steel is my body and fire is my blood
    I have created over a thousand blades
    Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
    Have withstood pain to create many weapons
    Yet, those hands will never hold anything
    So as I pray, unlimited blade works.

  3. #303
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    Hardpony's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Edea Northenlight
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I hate the new Bard! Why was it necessary to make him a caster?? Choosing a class, I focused on the mobility. Now I have to stand like a pillar and cast shots. Please tell me it will be removed and the bard again be the same. And tell me,do I always have to include in this dungeon rack? or you can do it the old-fashioned bard without caste abilities? are the dps loss?
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    Last edited by Hardpony; 06-30-2015 at 05:27 AM.

  4. #304
    Player
    Panasync's Avatar
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    Character
    Panasync Dilaudid
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    apparently SkS isn't even working (more of a general issue tbh, rather than bard focused), either that or the number needed is fucking huge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA1wX1GgPM
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    Last edited by Panasync; 06-30-2015 at 07:59 AM.

  5. #305
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    Teiren's Avatar
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    Character
    Haruna Astir
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    As far as I know, Bard DPS was always a little lower in ARR (~90%) to compensate for not being penalized by moving like BLM and SMN. Now your DPS can be the same as casters because of also casting like them. Is there some other problem I'm missing? You can just not use it and go back to doing less damage like before. I think it's an interesting decision to make between knowing when to be mobile and when not to be. We're not fighting striking dummies here. Attacking while moving can mean doing as much or more DPS than other casters in some fights.

    However, I do think Wanderer's Minuet cast time should be a little shorter. 2 seconds sounds good. The current 3 seconds seems stupid. And I don't think auto attacks should be completely disabled. That doesn't sit well with me either. Reducing their damage would be much better because I agree that Bard shouldn't feel exactly like a caster.

    Oh, and skill speed just flat out not working is pretty funny, lol. That's really weird too.
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    Last edited by Teiren; 06-30-2015 at 07:37 AM.

  6. #306
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    apparently SkS isn't even working (more of a general issue tbh, rather than bard focused)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA1wX1GgPM
    /sigh.... oh well hope the incoming hotfix is for that
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  7. #307
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    Minorinz's Avatar
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    Yuni Azure
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    Spriggan
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    if they make wm an instant cast and buff bard's weapon skills just a little, should be enough imo, the rest is how good the player is...

    edit: or have wm on and proc instant casts to be able to move here and there.
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    Last edited by Minorinz; 06-30-2015 at 07:48 AM.

  8. #308
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    Snowaeth's Avatar
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    Character
    Snow Ball
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    apparently SkS isn't even working (more of a general issue tbh, rather than bard focused)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA1wX1GgPM
    Can confirm this.
    Can't even gain 1 dmg to Windbite dot ticks from adding 90 Skillspeed.
    (1)

  9. #309
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    Seifa's Avatar
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    Character
    Seifa Chante
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    apparently SkS isn't even working (more of a general issue tbh, rather than bard focused), either that or the number needed is fucking huge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA1wX1GgPM
    /facepalm

    If this is infact true, this just reinforce my thought that SE's internal testers are awful.

    I think this bug affects other classes too, so while BRDs's dots are a huge part of their damage, this will help other jobs as well (cough, SMNs).

    I'll just eat some more salt, it's not that another kilos or two will break me at this point.
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  10. #310
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    yamochan's Avatar
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    Yamo Tsukamoto
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Panasync View Post
    apparently SkS isn't even working (more of a general issue tbh, rather than bard focused), either that or the number needed is fucking huge

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NA1wX1GgPM
    first of just count the ticks. it ticks 5 times at the start and 6 times after he switched into his speed equip so yes it works it may not be all to much but it seems to work
    hmm but now here is the thing normaly skill speed should not affect the tick rate it should be as u guys said and increase the dmg. now thats a mistery for me at least.
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    Last edited by yamochan; 06-30-2015 at 09:53 AM.
    I am the bone of my sword
    Steel is my body and fire is my blood
    I have created over a thousand blades
    Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life
    Have withstood pain to create many weapons
    Yet, those hands will never hold anything
    So as I pray, unlimited blade works.

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