Midgardsormrs children question... (post-HW so thread may contain spoilers)

[Alise]

Wasn't the Dragon story teller name is Hraesvelgr? Why are you calling him Tiamat instead?

And you are saying that the very, very powerful Bahamut we lost at the beginning was the illusion that is way stronger than the real bahamut?

[Grayve]

Wasn't the Dragon story teller name is Hraesvelgr? Why are you calling him Tiamat instead?

And you are saying that the very, very powerful Bahamut we lost at the beginning was the illusion that is way stronger than the real bahamut?

The Bahamut we fought was a Primal, summoned by 5000 years of prayers of the Mercidian Dragons imprissoned in Dalamund, was significantly more powerful then the original.

Tiamat is another of Midgardsomrs first brood you'll meet in the level 59 areas.

[Anonymoose]

There could be a whole planet out there that has dragons.

A trader from Quarth told me that Dragons come from the moon.

So looking at the picture and with the images of known dragons from Heavensward now, I think we can extrapolate <...>

Agreed with Red / Orange / Purple. I agree that Tiamat may be yellow, however; not purple. The horns are a distinctive shape, but Tiamat has lots, and lots of protrusions coming out of her face and Pink just has a big beak.

If I had to guess who the other 2 are I'd say the yellow one is Shinryu and the Ixal-looking one is Quetzalcoatl

Quetzalcoatl is a solid guess given that it looks much like an Ixal, who also have Mesoamerican themes.

Shinryu also sounds like a good name to add to the speculation salad, though there's always a possibility that XIV will choose the historical branch where Shinryu is transdimensional and more powerful than all other dragons, perhaps tied again into Omega, perhaps how Midgardsormr got to "this star."

[DarthSanguine]

So looking at the picture and with the images of known dragons from Heavensward now, I think we can extrapolate the following:

Red (Centre) is clearly Midgardsormr
Orange (top left) is Hraesvelgr
Purple (second bottom) is Nidhogg
Pink (bottom) is Tiamat (the shape of the horns is distinctive)

No, the green dragon next to Hraesvelgr is Tiamat is Tiamat. The bottom one looks nothing like her. Plus Tiamat (with the exception of FF8) has always been green, including in FF14.

[DarthSanguine]

Quetzalcoatl is a solid guess given that it looks much like an Ixal, who also have Mesoamerican themes.

Plus in Aztec mythology Quetzalcoatl is depicted as a feathered serpent. Not much of a stretch from there to Dragon.

[Magnesium02]

So revised:

[Alberel]

One thing to mention is that summoning something as a primal tends to change its appearance somewhat. Tiamat pointed out that the Bahamut she summoned was not the same Bahamut she'd loved. Shiva too looks nothing like the real mortal Shiva that Hraesvelgr loved. It's possible the Bahamut we know looks nothing like the original so comparing his images in-game to the art (which presumably depicts the seven children before everything fell apart) might be a futile effort.

[Bhearil]

Also in personality Primals are not exactly the same individual, since it mirrors how the persons praying to it think how their personality should be.

[Whiteroom]

One thing to mention is that summoning something as a primal tends to change its appearance somewhat. Tiamat pointed out that the Bahamut she summoned was not the same Bahamut she'd loved. Shiva too looks nothing like the real mortal Shiva that Hraesvelgr loved. It's possible the Bahamut we know looks nothing like the original so comparing his images in-game to the art (which presumably depicts the seven children before everything fell apart) might be a futile effort.

Had the same thought myself. I wonder if any of the primals match thier true form.

[Timat]

this again? No Tioman is NOT

Easy there hoss, did not know this was already discusses.

Mind telling me why she is not? I could have sworn I heard something about her being an elder dragon or sister to one of them or something along those lines.