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  1. #541
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    yeah. well sometimes i cba and just time dilatation + celestial opposition one guy so he gets a 45 or 50sec damage buff.

    happens once in a lifetime since I must get 1 balance for every 40 cards I draw /sigh

    I seriously think some cards have a higher chance of getting picked
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  2. #542
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    MidnightTundra's Avatar
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    Luciana Wolf
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Because Expanded Balance/Arrow on an 8 man party is already incredibly powerful. Extending by another 5 seconds, because the CD is pretty much always up when I need it, pretty much makes it broken. Keep in mind that it extends the duration of all of my other buffs. A. Helios is now stronger and A. Benefic is now stronger when in Diurnal Sect. It also extends Luminous Aether. I'm not sure but does it not also extend Synastry on both me and the tank therefore making it last longer? Synastry is a pretty powerful cooldown as is.

    Since the 30 sec CD syncs with the Draw CD and every other CD we have, I'd honestly pop it on cooldown. It also has a 4s stun on it (its meh but still something).
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  3. #543
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    Yeah that's all perfect in a perfect world BUT : you need to actually get an arrow or a spear to Royal Road it. Then you need to actually get a Balance/Arrow to use it. You won't be able to do that every 30 sec.

    It's just not how any of this work.
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  4. #544
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    SuzakuCMX's Avatar
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    Peach Parfait
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    ... it only increases the card by 5 sec. Such a big deal. Whoosh.

    Or make it a 40-45 sec cd.
    Yes, that's the point. It's not going to feel good even if you give it a lower CD because the effect is so small. So buff the effect rather than just making it into a way of making card buffs 20s always.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poisonous View Post
    And aren't you forced into Expanding buffs to the whole party for it to be worth using?
    No, it's oGCD and instant so you lose nothing by using it. It would always be worth it because by the time another card buff rolls around...hey it's back up again.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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  6. #545
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    Leiloni's Avatar
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    Leiloni Kahu
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SaintK View Post
    This "speed buff" your talking about is also useless. Hell it even throws off my precasting its so useless sometimes. Cool, you get an instant cast benefic 2, but its still on GCD so.....whats the point?
    Because you can get the tank up faster. Cast a Benefic and then instant cast Benefic II after that for a bigger burst. It's faster than trying to cast it manually. You do it to get him out of the danger zone.
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  7. #546
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    Nague's Avatar
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    Kanya Nague
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Lol hybrid tax? Astro is a pure healer when you combine our sect bonus we are within a few potency on par with the other healers.

    yeah for the baseheal maybe, but then you look and see that the other healers actually have powerfull abilities for healing and we have clown abilities that either do nothing (card duratuion increased by 5 sec ), or actually harm your healing like lightspeeed.
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  8. #547
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    RichardButte's Avatar
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    Richard Butte
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Astrologian: the healer that pushes twice as many buttons as a scholar or white mage for half the result!
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  9. #548
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    DreamWeaver's Avatar
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    The amount of Ex-Scholar Master Race now Inferior-AST QQ in this thread is astounding.
    (I say this because for every post about WHMs having Divine Seal bla bla that AST don't have, there's probably 15~20 post about how Essential Dignity sucks more than Lustrate, how Selene's buff > Card buffs, how Crit adlo> Noct Sect etc etc).

    Rather than bemoaning how terrible your class is, but you'll still play it because you love tarot cards and the playstyle, and then moan somemore how your class sucks in an endless despairing cycle, is it really impossible to have a proper discussion on how to play ASTs effectively? (I'll love to participate in such a discussion, but alas, I'm still just a LV 45 AST)
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    Last edited by DreamWeaver; 06-29-2015 at 10:41 AM.

  10. #549
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Personally I am loving it. I will say Collective Unconscious is not exactly the best in Nocturnal, feels like it needs a stronger reduction, but despite that I have had zero issue healing or feeling over whelmed and wondering if i can heal my team properly. I can't speak for Scholars as I never unlocked it despite having my Summoner at ilv120, but I am finding it much busier than White Mage (lv 50) and more enjoyable. My only question and maybe someone can help me out. Which combination would you consider the best for getting Luminiferous Aether off cool down. Enhanced Arrow or Extended Arrow? You can get a 96sec for 30 sec, or 84sec for 15. I assume its like pushing the needle till time is up and it resorts back to its original speed but I've done both (not out of combat, guess I need to try) but I don't see much difference.
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  11. #550
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    MidnightTundra's Avatar
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    Luciana Wolf
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Arrow is attack speed +10%. It does not affect ability cooldowns. It affects spell/weaponskill casting times and cooldown speed and auto attack speed. The Spear card affects Ability cooldowns (Dignity, Light Speed, L. Aether, etc.) and the Spear card's -20% cooldown effect only takes effect if you use the ability under the Spear buff. If you activate L. Aether before applying the Spear Card onto yourself, your cooldown will not be lowered.
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