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  1. #481
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    Zoralink's Avatar
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    Zora Link
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Aspected Helios and Aspected Benefic do stack with each other and yes their heals do stack. My Aspected Benefic heals around 300 per tick and with helios it goes up to 400-500.

    The shields on the other hand don't stack because, well they're shields. I dunno who thought this was a good idea either but my guess is it's the same thing with Regen and Medica 2 and then Adloquium and Succor. Regen and Medica 2 stack but Adlo and Succor do not.
    The issue with the shields is that you can overwrite a crit adlo shield with a crappy aspected benefic shield.

    For some reason they decided not to run the check if the shield is stronger or not, at the least. I understand why they don't let shields stack, but come on. The aforementioned should not happen, as if noct wasn't mediocre enough as it is.
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  2. #482
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Garlean Empire
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    Character
    Eros Crux
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    One issue i'm noticing is some tanks still have the speed run mind set. We went from running dungeons vastly over geared to barely decent gear with the new dungeon. Even @ 60 the devs said the law gear is the ARR equivalent of Darklight (i70) stuff. I just did Dusk Vigil back to back with a PLD who went from one mob pack to the next and had no issue keep him healed. The next round I had a WAR who was a tissue tiger that kept pulling multiple sets and I was just barely squeaking by with OOM after every set.
    Ive seen this EXACT situation endlessly since i started AST in early access. It's so unfair on new players. Dark Knights are the most guilty of doing this in my opinion.
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  3. #483
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    Poisonous's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Leezil Paige
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VitalSuit View Post
    Aspected Helios and Aspected Benefic do stack with each other and yes their heals do stack. My Aspected Benefic heals around 300 per tick and with helios it goes up to 400-500.

    The shields on the other hand don't stack because, well they're shields. I dunno who thought this was a good idea either but my guess is it's the same thing with Regen and Medica 2 and then Adloquium and Succor. Regen and Medica 2 stack but Adlo and Succor do not.
    Thank you, that clears things up immensely for me. I can't find any reason to use Nocturnal now...
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  4. #484
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    Shikiseki's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Akio Shikimazu
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    After playing with some DRKs (thanks to the regen bug, that kinda forces me to go Nocturnal Sect >_>, I'm getting the feel like the removal of the stance changing during battles was a last-minute change. The whole class was based on those 2 stances in mind, as in switch to nocturnal --> shield up --> switch back etc. Healing in Nocturnal sect doesn't really fit well with the AST skillset either since pre-shielding kinda forces you to use more heals with basically only the mp-regeneration of a 2.x WHM >_>;

    Also in 8-man parties, I noticed that my buffs appear really insignificant - I feel like I should be able to draw a lot more to be remotely useful like the other 2 healers.
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  5. #485
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    Eraqus's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Character
    Eraqus Yensid
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    In 8 man groups u must use royal road to take the expanded buff. Or maybe an enhanced bole just for the tank
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  6. #486
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    Krixus's Avatar
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    Krixus Rayne
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    After playing with some DRKs (thanks to the regen bug, that kinda forces me to go Nocturnal Sect >_>
    Regen bug? Is it only on drk? I dont know what this means cause my regens work like they should.
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  7. #487
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    Blitzball's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Ryan Moogleton
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Reading through the thread makes me believe a lot of people are posting before they've even hit 60. The issues begin once you're there (Actually more around The Vault sort of level area but mostly 60). Please if you're posting saying the class is fine you really need to actually try the EX primals or expert dungeons without being ridiculously overgeared for them because once you've done that the weaknesses of the class are so evidently clear. If you are on equal gear levels as the content it is extremely hard to keep tanks up whilst conserving mana unlike with the other two classes.
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  8. #488
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    Lilita's Avatar
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    Character
    Lilita Lita
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    After healing with my astro for a while now.. cleared ravana ex for 10 times to get a weapon last night I can say that at least for me it does not get any better. When theres aoe healing intensive parts of the fight along with tanks getting hammered I feel like I am gasping for air, locked into forever long global cooldowns, and the only time i am not stressed is when I see Essential Dignity ready to use or Benefic II proc...When I use aoe heals i feel like they do nothing compared to white mage, and I just can't keep my party up alone. If other healer dies, it's a wipe if it's not like a break in the fight where boss isnt hammering on people. The card buffs....there has been fights where i managed to draw Balance and aoe buff party for all boss dps stances, and there has been fights where I didn't pull any useful cards all fight long. We killed the boss in both situations, without swords on butterfly phase, I felt like it didnt make a difference, maybe 1% or 2% faster/slower.
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  9. #489
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    Lilita's Avatar
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    Lilita Lita
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Part of me wants to be stubborn and stick to the class, the other part thinks why struggle go with scholar..so I also got my sch to 54 in the mean time... My instance runs look like either tank can pull all the mobs available and i can heal him with ease, or if we go pack by pack i dont even have to cast a heal. It's a joke compared to running those instances with astro. Can't wait to get it to 60 and compare on ravana fight.
    EDIT: i just wanted to add, that in my whole time healing (since start of the game), I have never ever been so stressed doing it...not in savage, not on t13 progress...nowhere.
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    Last edited by Lilita; 06-28-2015 at 11:50 PM.

  10. #490
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilita View Post
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    I am sorry, but you cannot expect AST to healbomb as much as WHM or shield/DPS as properly as a SCH. Pray that it never happens, or AST will be the only healer job around.
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