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  1. #451
    Player
    VitalSuit's Avatar
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    Tarra Netsky
    World
    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LycorisSelunis View Post
    I agree. gravity costs more then 1/10 my mp.... I know we don't want to spam-aoe like a blm but this is just silly-unsustainable...
    That's because Gravity is our Holy? You're not supposed to spam it for optimal dps.
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  2. #452
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    Leiloni's Avatar
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    Leiloni Kahu
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    We can also cross-class Aero (since there really isn't a GOOD cross-class after Stoneskin/Protect/Swiftcast anyways...maybe Raise if you want to swiftcast macro something).
    Why would you take Raise when AST has Ascend? As for the 4th cross class skill, why aren't you taking Cleric Stance?
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  3. #453
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Me and my fc bud are 60 now, been crushin everything. And I do spam the shit out of gravity in dungeons just like I would holy on whm, not sure why people are saying not to do that. I'm able to hold over 200 dps though the whole dungeon (excluding dmg increased by cards), at least with pld tanks. We both agreed there are many bad players spreading miss information on here. Astro can heal well (obviously not going to top whm but they dont need to), buff well (can play any card and it is useful in hard fights, dungeons a few cards are meh), and dps better than sch, but probably less than whm.

    Please please please play the job to 60, practice alot, and give the job a REAL evaluation, not some BS first impressions. I used to main whm but now Im basically a whm that can buff. People dont understand that before 3.0 every skilled healer was just overhealing and the stength of heals was over the top and unneeded. Astro makes it perfect.
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  4. #454
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    sackm's Avatar
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    Character
    Blind Guardian
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    AST does not out-dps SCH lol
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  5. #455
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jars View Post
    I really feel the lack of bane on ast but that's just for dungeons it's not as important in 8 mans. AST damage spells burn a ton of mana though, in fates I find myself running oom far quicker than whm/sch do. all the storyline duties were terrible, I constantly ran out of mana
    Uh...not sure how you can "feel the lack of bane" when you have no Bio, Bio II or Miasma in the first place.

    Also, while leveling the MP pool is horrible for ALL healers. Get some gear at 60 and things change drastically.
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  6. #456
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    Me and my fc bud are 60 now, been crushin everything. And I do spam the shit out of gravity in dungeons just like I would holy on whm, not sure why people are saying not to do that. I'm able to hold over 200 dps though the whole dungeon (excluding dmg increased by cards), at least with pld tanks. We both agreed there are many bad players spreading miss information on here. Astro can heal well (obviously not going to top whm but they dont need to), buff well (can play any card and it is useful in hard fights, dungeons a few cards are meh), and dps better than sch
    Not to diminish your enjoyment and apparent accomplishment with the class, but 200 DPS in a dungeon wasn't difficult to achieve as either pre-existing healer at 50. At level 60, assuming you don't end up with a tissue paper tank who attempts to speedrun, DPS can be much higher due to lvl/ilvl increase and new/stronger DPS actions.
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  7. #457
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    Eraqus's Avatar
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    Eraqus Yensid
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I'm not finding any of this problems tbh. I really like like the dmg of ast. That's the point. Ast it's a half dps too or maybe 1/4.if u play it pro it's a very good dmg dealer
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  8. #458
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    UOdhn's Avatar
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    Venthas Drakskyr
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    As for mana problems, they have the same mana cooldown that WHM had pre 3.0 and WHM always did fine, but AST's is on a shorter CD.
    While I agree with most everything else stated, this is incorrect. Luminiferous Aether is on the same cooldown timer as Shroud. Now with whms having assize also return MP at 10%, Ast may be the healer going oom most in the expac, unless they use ewer on themselves or a spear before using LA.
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  9. #459
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    SenzorialBoundries's Avatar
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    Polaris Sonata
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    and dps better than sch, but probably less than whm.
    I'm sorry but no ast can ever outdps scholar, sch is basically a dps class at its core (Arcanist) and you can afford to dps much much freely due to fairy healing while you keep dpsing.
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  10. #460
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Why would you take Raise when AST has Ascend? As for the 4th cross class skill, why aren't you taking Cleric Stance?
    Ascend is bugged where it currently cannot be used in any macros. For healers who hate pushing two buttons instead of one, this apparently justifies taking Raise as a skill instead of one that doesn't blatantly overlap.

    (It should be noted that the Ascend bug needs to be fixed, yes. I'm not making light of that. But I can't condone bringing an overlap skill over something more useful, just because of having to press an extra button just to Swift a rez.)
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