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  1. #61
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    Kaizersan's Avatar
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    Shinoa Hiragi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeikial View Post
    What is so hard about ASTRO? What is so technical? please explain the difficulty in playing ASTRO. I leveled my ASTRO to 50 and see no more difficulty in the class compared to the others, none what so ever. The cards are not difficult by any stretch of the imagination you pull card and you either use it, shuffle it, or RR it that's it and if you want to use it well then you use it, sounds real hard
    The hard part is setting up the proper card chain before boss fight knowing in a moments notice who will benefit from the card you draw the most so you don't waste a card that is far more effort then any other healers as they just focus on healing and cleansing debuffs and plus Disable is very time sensitive otherwise it gets wasted on a auto attack.
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  2. #62
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    No I don't mean adequate. I mean awesome. It's not difficult. If you find it so difficult to be a great SCH, I'm guessing your skill level is fairly low.
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  3. #63
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    Vyncent Curaga
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizersan View Post
    The hard part is setting up the proper card chain before boss fight knowing in a moments notice who will benefit from the card you draw the most so you don't waste a card that is far more effort then any other healers as they just focus on healing and cleansing debuffs and plus Disable is very time sensitive otherwise it gets wasted on a auto attack.
    That's not hard that's luck as in hoping you get the card you want because its random, that's not difficulty/ randomness does not equal difficulty. Now if you could choose the cards to use now your talking technical. WM needs to know when to pre cast medica2, eye for eye, SS, so on and so forth, SCH needs to know when to pre shield, SS, Sacred Soil, whispering dawn, fey ill, fey glow, the new selene buffs etc etc. Having complete control over your farie is more technical than getting lucky on a card pull.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No I don't mean adequate. I mean awesome. It's not difficult. If you find it so difficult to be a great SCH, I'm guessing your skill level is fairly low.
    Same could be said about Astro
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  5. #65
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No I don't mean adequate. I mean awesome. It's not difficult. If you find it so difficult to be a great SCH, I'm guessing your skill level is fairly low.
    And there's the unsubstantiated personal attack out of left field. I don't recall insulting you, so I guess the lame jab was just a freebie?
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  6. #66
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    Bunny Boo
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    AST have to do everything the other healers have to do, with less oshit button, less free mana and less free GCDS. But they also have to manage cards on top of that.

    Please, SCH has no mana issues and a free GCD every cast due to have fairy pet, alongside some extra free gcds from 3 lustrate/1 lustrate + 2 indomitability every 60 second.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 06-27-2015 at 07:03 AM.

  7. #67
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    Rin Shiraishi
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    No I don't mean adequate. I mean awesome. It's not difficult. If you find it so difficult to be a great SCH, I'm guessing your skill level is fairly low.
    Now you're just trolling. Do tell me what the other two healing jobs have over SCH at skill ceiling play in terms of things to take into account and keeping the throughput high. Just for the heck of it. Curious to know, if you think SCH is easymode.
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  8. #68
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    Richard Butte
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    But stop looking at other class's kits.
    We HAVE to look at other classes' kits because, if they can get the job done better than we can, we're not going to be brought to raids.

    And right now, I wouldn't bring an AST to a raid and I'm maining it. Buff the cards, fix some of the oddities and they they MAY have a worthwhile healer here. As it stands now, the class just isn't there yet.
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  9. #69
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    Shinoa Hiragi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeikial View Post
    That's not hard that's luck as in hoping you get the card you want because its random, that's not difficulty/ randomness does not equal difficulty. Now if you could choose the cards to use now your talking technical. WM needs to know when to pre cast medica2, eye for eye, SS, so on and so forth, SCH needs to know when to pre shield, SS, Sacred Soil, whispering dawn, fey ill, fey glow, the new selene buffs etc etc. Having complete control over your farie is more technical than getting lucky on a card pull.
    Still not getting it all the cards have a good use like I said the difficulty comes in deciding in seconds who is the best person to receive the card without being able to see TP levels or who has used abilities that could benefit from lowering cool downs and if you aren't playing on voice chat you aren't going to be able to ask who needs it the most.
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  10. #70
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    Richard Butte
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizersan View Post
    Still not getting it all the cards have a good use like I said the difficulty comes in deciding in seconds who is the best person to receive the card without being able to see TP levels or who has used abilities that could benefit from lowering cool downs and if you aren't playing on voice chat you aren't going to be able to ask who needs it the most.
    One of the ways in which I feel the cards should be buffed is to make Spear reduce the CD time on things already on CD and give Ewer TP AND MP regen instead of cost reduction.
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