A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

[Voltyblast]

So one person who holds your views = everyone in the world who plays this game, seriously I have two friends who started and told them this and their cool with it so does that invalidate your argument or perhaps your being a bit over hyperbole on this subject not going to change anytime soon expansion already released? Also they are holding off on purchasing the expansion to see if they like the game or not first 3 new jobs isn't going to change there minds if it doesn't interest them after a few weeks but go figure people with different mindsets on gaming strange.

Just to make sure of one thing here.

As much as I might be thinking in the worst possible ways about this, I think this statement explains it all


There you have it: that's the real reason behind the gated content in my opinion, as new players won't be able to get to the expansion content in time within the free month and making them pay for another month or two if it's taking too much time.

I mean, I still hardly believe that it's for lore reasons that the expansion is gated: not even all JRPGs are that gated in terms of content (well, at least those who allow free exploration), but I think this one pretty much explains why the gating. I might be wrong on this and this might be the most pessimistic way of thinking at things, but who would gain for doing all this?

Definitely not the new player if you can catch my drift.

So no I'm saying that as 100% fact: I'm saying that as 100% opinion and opinions, as far as I recall, are subjective.

Which means that I think that's the closest thing to a reason "why" to lock the expansion In my opinion, and not just because someone said it for me: SE is a company and needs to make money and I highly doubt that they really care about the lore and story as much as they say.

Still, if I'm wrong everyone is winning, and my opinion remains just an opinion that, overall, didn't hurt anyone.

[odintius]

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Honest answer it was the producer and developers who decided to go this route in game development and that purely there opinion on the matter and probably have data to back it up who knows, heck it could change after another expansion the game is still young in terms for a mmo things change. My opinion is this I think this subject is trifling in all this time moaning about something on the forum as a new player they could have been halfway finish with AAR by know the leveling system is in this game is a joke have friends <BONUS> you probably be in Istgard in no time.

[Voltyblast]

Honest answer it was the producer and developers who decided to go this route in game development and that purely there opinion on the matter and probably have data to back it up who knows, heck it could change after another expansion the game is still young in terms for a mmo things change. My opinion is this I think this subject is trifling in all this time moaning about something on the forum as a new player they could have been halfway finish with AAR by know the leveling system is in this game is a joke have friends <BONUS> you probably be in Istgard in no time.

I hope you're fully correct on that! I'm not saying that I'm 100% correct on the matter but still a company is a company and even with all the "data" you can get, their main goal is to make money and that's undeniable.

Still if they are saying the truth, that's more winning power to you: I definitely don't care whether they care or not about a story but rather if the story is good or not and for me, as in my personal and subjective opinion, the story is bad and not worth the time and if we don't agree with each others that's completely fine.

I don't agree however when someone tells me when I'm playing the wrong game when I clearly liked other aspects of it minus the story, and there are RPGs where the story is not really "great" (Pokemon and any of the latest Mario RPGs) and if I don't like one aspect of the game it doesn't simply mean the game is not for me. If the game wasn't for me I wouldn't have played it at all.

And also, not all of us are moaning and in need of doing the MSQ: I have done it long ago and this thread affects me in absolutely no way whatsoever and I could go by on my ways and completely forget about anything without bothering.
However I do know some people (and this thread has quite a few of them) who are struggling because of either boredom or because of the needless amount of unrelated story bits that could be simply removed; I still think that if they removed the dungeon (or making them soloable) would solve all the problems but I digress.