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  1. #41
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    wonka11's Avatar
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    Why? Why would they scale better than Warriors in comparison to the upgrades in gear warrior gets?
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  2. #42
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    It fascinated me in a WoD run on Tuesday after the weekly reset, that a level 50 WARR with just the conqueror and an assortment of 110 and 120 gear was voted to be the MT for the entire raid. She hadn't even been to Ishgard yet while the other two [a level 53 DRK and a level 52 PLD] just took OT. Even the WARR was shocked lol. And she did a GREAT job!
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  3. #43
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonka11 View Post
    Why? Why would they scale better than Warriors in comparison to the upgrades in gear warrior gets?
    The ratio will be the same, but the difference will be higher.
    If a DPS does 50% more than a tank, it's lower from 300 to 450 than 400 to 600 (Actual numbers notwhistanding)
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  4. #44
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    Leon Harte
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    It fascinated me in a WoD run on Tuesday after the weekly reset, that a level 50 WARR with just the conqueror and an assortment of 110 and 120 gear was voted to be the MT for the entire raid. She hadn't even been to Ishgard yet while the other two [a level 53 DRK and a level 52 PLD] just took OT. Even the WARR was shocked lol. And she did a GREAT job!
    It's not like level 50s weren't MTing WoD before HW came out, right?

    I think WoD will still cap them at level 50, and the gear found in the early stages of HW are actually more around the iLevel 115-120 range -- Comparable to what the WAR had.

    Still, it does seem strange that the PLD didn't step up, at least.
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  5. #45
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    Tila Beauguerre
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonka11 View Post
    Why? Why would they scale better than Warriors in comparison to the upgrades in gear warrior gets?
    Well, a lot of the warrior gear has parry on it, a strictly defensive stat. While DPS will be getting critical strike. The rings, necklaces, wrists, and ears. Those are strictly split down dps/tank lines, so either the warrior gets the dps gear, sacrificing their tankiness for damage and potentially taking it from a DPS, or they get the tanking gear which has no str and is based on defense. The DPS accuracy cap is also higher if the tank wants to focus on damage, and they'd typically will aim for defensive materia over offense based.
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  6. #46
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    This thread is getting trolled soooooo hard.
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  7. #47
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    Rhaja Foxtail
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    This thread is getting trolled soooooo hard.
    SHHHHHHHH, I just got the popcorn ready
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  8. #48
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    Sol Darkwater
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    All tanks share gear, this is a comparison of tanks. Warriors will have very good dps numbers on OT, but the poster is ignoring changes to other tanks and is cherry picking his arguments. Can a warrior do a 3 fell combo in berserk which is INSANE --yes--its gonna be the BEST burst damage of the tanks, but its overall damage being far and away better than others remains to be seen (I mean--it *will* be better, just looking at it). Goring Blade is 540 potency attack every 24 seconds, royal authority is 340 spammable attack and sword oath remains as great as ever. In 2.0 paladin ot had a great passive but terrible active damage options (where warriors were the opposite). Warriors now have a fantastic deliverance stance and fell cleave has 100 more potency than IB, but the warrior is less a story of fell cleave and much more a story of deliverance to be blunt.
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    Perceval Haizen
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Fell cleave has 200 more potency than IB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    This thread is getting trolled soooooo hard.
    We know dude, sometimes it's fun to take the bait.
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