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  1. #281
    Player
    Deifact's Avatar
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    Deifact Kinspawn
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    I'm not very high level at all but one thing that I thought might make AST more flexible would be having card draw build up "charges" over time as the cool down expires (think like scholar strategem charges from FFXI ) which allow you to draw a card at the cost of a charge. This way you could draw, royal road and redraw at the cost of two charges instantly.

    It's so frustrating pulling spear after spear and waiting so long to redraw, and also this would make it feel less like a waste when you aren't drawing between pulls (since you're still accrueing charges)
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  2. #282
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    Krixus's Avatar
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardCowboy View Post
    After reading all the replies in this thread and a few other ones I feel bad for my healer brothers who have wasted time leveling a sub-par healer too 60 and are now trying to defend the new class with justifications of being a "support" job when in fact they are just a sub-par job with a lack of decent healing cool downs and rng buffs that arnt that great and propably won't be up when needed. I truly am sorry for your loss and feel bad for the fate/dungeon grind you have ahead of you while leveling one of the good healing jobs. If you need someone to talk to for support please don't hesitate to send me a /tell in game
    I would outperform you on astro in cleric stance scrub!
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  3. #283
    Player Hypie's Avatar
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    Stygia Ashenscale
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardCowboy View Post
    After reading all the replies in this thread and a few other ones I feel bad for my healer brothers who have wasted time leveling a sub-par healer too 60 and are now trying to defend the new class with justifications of being a "support" job when in fact they are just a sub-par job with a lack of decent healing cool downs and rng buffs that arnt that great and propably won't be up when needed. I truly am sorry for your loss and feel bad for the fate/dungeon grind you have ahead of you while leveling one of the good healing jobs. If you need someone to talk to for support please don't hesitate to send me a /tell in game
    Wow what rubbish. If the ASt would be SO underwhelming like you colour him here then SE would already have said something to that Topic. So you are just playing the "elitist Scholar/Whitemage" here.
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  4. #284
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    KeyboardCowboy's Avatar
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    Keyboard Cowboy
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    I would outperform you on astro in cleric stance scrub!
    A perfect example right here folks, the first stage is denial, when you hit acceptance you have a long fate grind ahead of you
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  5. #285
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhikail View Post
    With the way it is set up, it's more of a Support job with healing capabilities lol but the thing is, the support is too RNG and the heals aren't that swell.


    WHM: Burst Healer.
    SCH: Mitigation Healer.
    AST: Support Healer(?)

    They need to fix it where the cards play more with us.
    We need more interaction with them.
    I'll try to complete your text^^;

    WHM: Burst Healer.
    SCH: Mitigation-Support Healer.: Sacred Soil, E4E, SS 3%, 20% magic defense, cure potency 20%, etc... :3
    AST: Support Healer(?)
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  6. #286
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardCowboy View Post
    A perfect example right here folks, the first stage is denial, when you hit acceptance you have a long fate grind ahead of you
    Nah I've been having no issues healing, but most players are bad. I play healer main since launch because its the job that can make the biggest difference in winning or losing. After struggling in so many fights because of bad healers I decided to main it.

    So I can only assume it's these same bad healers that are leveling a job that takes even more multitasking than sch, and simply are overwhelmed. But its fine by me, I'm in a good fc as a known strong healer, so I will get my astro gearz.
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  7. #287
    Player Hypie's Avatar
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    Stygia Ashenscale
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardCowboy View Post
    A perfect example right here folks, the first stage is denial, when you hit acceptance you have a long fate grind ahead of you
    This totally degrades you to a Elitist Snob instead of a serious Discussion Partner. Go Troll somewhere else.
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  8. #288
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    Kanya Nague
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    I almost never see selene being used in serious content until it becomes farmable. So pleeeease stfu about Selene's haste, as in the content we are talking about, you would have eos out. It is very obvious this discussion is lacked full of casuals. Also all the people that arnt even 50 yet just stop talking, it means nothing under 50 with you i40 gear.

    So when a party needs Eos to survive, what in the hells does make you think they could survive with AST.
    you think AST has better healing than scholar with selene out?
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  9. #289
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    Rose Mary
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krixus View Post
    I almost never see selene being used in serious content until it becomes farmable. So pleeeease stfu about Selene's haste, as in the content we are talking about, you would have eos out. It is very obvious this discussion is lacked full of casuals. Also all the people that arnt even 50 yet just stop talking, it means nothing under 50 with you i40 gear.
    This is not true. I used Selene when I first clear T4, T7, T8, T9(first half), T11, T12(first half), T13(first half).
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    Last edited by RoseM; 06-25-2015 at 12:37 AM.

  10. #290
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    Krixus Rayne
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nague View Post
    So when a party needs Eos to survive, what in the hells does make you think they could survive with AST.
    you think AST has better healing than scholar with selene out?
    Astro can heal better aoe than sch yes, have you even played the job yet?

    Sch has one aoe strong burst then its on CD and you gotta rely on shitty ass succor spam or hope you have a whm helping. Astro has all the same ability's as whm... So yup.
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