WHM Vs AST Healing Comparison at 50

[VitalSuit]

We can save a tank with a 25% damage reduction for 15 seconds (or a 10% for 30). We can give the whole group 15% more damage for 15 seconds

Our 40 sec cooldown "OH SH*T" button is probably the best I've ever seen in a healing class in an MMO: "You just dropped to 10% HP? Here, have a completely full instant refill!"

AoE damage buff will be 5% not 15%. Benediction can do the same thing as an "oh crap" heal but on a much longer cooldown so I agree with you on that, a 40sec CD Lustrate isn't all that bad but Lustrate is still better.

I confess I lack proper knowledge of the card system but people here are proposing a team wide AOE buff?

Yes, if you Royal Road either the Spear or Arrow cards you will get the ability to AoE your next card used but at 50% less potency. So if I were to Royal Road Spear and then draw Balance (10% increased damage) I can give it out to the entire party but at 5% damage.

[GideonHighmourn]

Yes, if you Royal Road either the Spear or Arrow cards you will get the ability to AoE your next card used but at 50% less potency. So if I were to Royal Road Spear and then draw Balance (10% increased damage) I can give it out to the entire party but at 5% damage.

Does it effect the entire party, or is there a specific radius of the effect, similar to Cure III or Deployment Tactics?

If it's a small AoE, I don't see stopping DPS to group up to get a small DMG increase being that effective, especially since you've given up a previous (DPS) draw to do so.

[VitalSuit]

Does it effect the entire party, or is there a specific radius of the effect, similar to Cure III or Deployment Tactics?

If it's a small AoE, I don't see stopping DPS to group up to get a small DMG increase being that effective, especially since you've given up a previous (DPS) draw to do so.

It does have a radius but honestly in most groups you're going to be pretty close together so they don't miss those aoe buffs like Succor. If I see a BLM, BRD, or MCH standing at max range I usually yell at them because they get no buffs from either me or the WHM/SCH (although WHM aoes have much MUCH larger radii).\

Also don't misunderstand Spear. It's by far one of the worst cards in the deck simply because the only way to get any use out of it is to plan with the other players and that never happens. I either use it on myself if I need to cast a long cooldown skill (Aetheric whatever, our Shroud of Saints skill) or I Royal Road it for the AoE buff.
Basically the way it works is Spear lowers the cooldowns of your abilities (those skills off the global cooldown) only if you have the buff on you BEFORE you use it. if you already used the skill and then get spear on you it's a waste because it does nothing. That's why it's considered worthless.

Nothing from arc = wtf my virus T-T

Yeah we have Disable which is only used for tankbuster skills or party wide AoE and since it only affects the next attack it's pretty dificult to land it properly.

[GideonHighmourn]

It does have a radius but honestly in most groups you're going to be pretty close together so they don't miss those aoe buffs like Succor. If I see a BLM, BRD, or MCH standing at max range I usually yell at them because they get no buffs from either me or the WHM/SCH (although WHM aoes have much MUCH larger radii).

How large is the radius? Yes, in most groups you're going to be in the same general vicinity, but radius plays a huge factor in how many people it will effect.

Again, if it's like Cure III (5y?), I don't see it hitting many people outside of maybe the melee DPS.

If it's closer to Deployment Tactics (10y) or Succor (15y) I can see it hitting a larger number of people, including melee and ranged.

[VitalSuit]

How large is the radius? Yes, in most groups you're going to be in the same general vicinity, but radius plays a huge factor in how many people it will effect.

Again, if it's like Cure III (5y?), I don't see it hitting many people outside of maybe the melee DPS.

If it's closer to Deployment Tactics (10y) or Succor (15y) I can see it hitting a larger number of people, including melee and ranged.

It's about the same as Succor range maybe a little smaller just make sure you cast it on yourself instead of the tanks/dps that way you can hit everyone like if you're casting Succor obviously since it spreads from the target it was casted on E.G. yourself

[RichardButte]

AoE damage buff will be 5% not 15%. Benediction can do the same thing as an "oh crap" heal but on a much longer cooldown so I agree with you on that, a 40sec CD Lustrate isn't all that bad but Lustrate is still better.

Oh whoops. I thought Bole and Balance were giving +150% when royal roaded and spear and arrow were giving +50% and the AoE...

Probably because of how SE refers to exp bonuses. Usually they're talking about ADDING the percent to whatever you're earning. :\

In that case, that's really not that great...