DARK KNIGHT: Thoughts on Living Dead and Sole Survivor?

[Seferex]

Why you say that Living dead is useless?
You think that Holmgang is usefull if you use it in a wrong time?

Actually imo Living Dead is better than Holmgang, since it auto activate if you reach 0 (a 20 seconds window is a huge time)

Then if you talk about Sole survivor is another story... That ability is really a joke...... should have the troll face as icon.

But saying that the DRK has 2 useless ability is wrong.... Then if we talk about useless abilities, even war and pld have the almost useless ability: Shield swipe (a lol against raid bosses) and fracture (ruin TP) for example...

[Jamez82]

I want to know what shadowskin does..

[rjspencer4]

I'm sure Sole Survivor will add some kind of positive effect to the target, if not then expect it to in a later patch after SE realizes that nobody uses it.

[BadRNG]

As a tank role comparison, war and pld do not have any abilities whatsoever that have the potential to be completely useless. It doesn't make sense that drk would have TWO abilities that can literally have no beneficial impact.

Living Dead is far from useless.

As for Sole Survivor, it's not really the first time we've seen highly situational/near useless skills before. Holmgang at launch anyone? In fact this skill as a lot in common with old Holmgang, it's nice thematically but not so much actually gameplay wise. Perhaps it will get changed in a future patch.

[AckersFury]

soul survivor should of been some kinda raise ability, super long CD, but can be used mid-fight

[Rhaja]

Sole Survivor is an awesome ability. It's not meant protect anyone other than the DRK, who is willing to take advantage of a crappy situation.

Example 1: An overly gungho DPS takes on more than it can chew. Macro that you've cast Sole Survivor on it, and the healer can let him die knowing your about to get a nice chunk of HP and MP back. He also doesn't split his focus on the two of you.

Example 2: Shiva at bow phase. A party member has a twitch reaction and slides into the edge, clearly about to die. Cast SS on them, and your more than likely capped in both HP and MP. They were going to die anyway.

Titan or Leviathan when you know someone is crappy at dodging. Fate parties that go bad, PVP, Sacrifice to skip adds (like in T1).

It's a very sitational ability that takes advantage of when you know someone is going to die. People die in runs, whether is from simple mistakes, progression, or too much alcohol. I'm willing to bet the more agressive DRK's will find more use for this ability than not. And if it's not being used, the party is doing right! After all, ideally you shouldn't need Holmgang or Hallowed Ground but in certain situations.

[kumo21]

After thinking about it I suppose that Living dead is a lot like holmgang with more potential. but sole survivor real needs help @@

[Alexiell]

I already can see people getting angry when using SS on them "you think im a noob and would die????!" ^^ We can use it on someone we dont like just to make him upset XD

[Asmodaeus]

After getting an overview for the DRK skills I must say I am disappointed. Aside from these 2 more or less useful skills this all seems very basic, nothing to special or new compared to PLD/WAR. I like tanking in general but the classes in this game are just to boring for my taste and I am not sure if DRK will be the exception.

[DSaint]

As a tank role comparison, war and pld do not have any abilities whatsoever that have the potential to be completely useless.

I too think there is not a *completely* useless ability, but Tempered Will is pretty close to it. This effect is not that bad since some bosses put heavy or have pushbacks/draw in mechanics... but 180 secs CD??? Really?