Holy and Flare diminishing returns nerf

[Lillia]

New stone! Stone III

[Everdark]

He's telling you to change to summoner, also WHM is getting Aero III.

That potency costing 707mp? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. nope.

New stone! Stone III

We'll see about this though. The MP cost seems to high for a single target ... so again just doesn't seem worth it.


If they bothered to give us skills that let a WHM manage their MP better the new skills wouldn't be an issue. Either that or give WHMs the MP pool to sustain it. Like how WAR has a larger HP pool compared to PLD.

[Lillia]

That potency costing 707mp? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. nope.


We'll see about this though. The MP cost seems to high for a single target ... so again just doesn't seem worth it.


If they bothered to give us skills that let a WHM manage their MP better the new skills wouldn't be an issue. Either that or give WHMs the MP pool to sustain it. Like how WAR has a larger HP pool compared to PLD.

Do you remember that whm will have like 10k mp? andddd Assize please look at that also remember there's saints shrouds.

[LerissaCastle]

This is seriously upsetting So what if we could speed run? I thought the classes were supposed to be unique. Yeah, I'm sure BLM will still be the best AoE class but this is a ridiculous nerf :/ WHM sorta makes sense--it is a healer after all, but seriously >.< Why not just a slight decrease in potency? D:

I did know BLM AoE was gonna get nerfed in exchange for better single target. Yoshi-P said something about that like a year ago. But dang. Wasn't expecting this

[Kuurei]

This is seriously upsetting So what if we could speed run? I thought the classes were supposed to be unique. Yeah, I'm sure BLM will still be the best AoE class but this is a ridiculous nerf :/ WHM sorta makes sense--it is a healer after all, but seriously >.< Why not just a slight decrease in potency? D:

I did know BLM AoE was gonna get nerfed in exchange for better single target. Yoshi-P said something about that like a year ago. But dang. Wasn't expecting this

Again, it seems this has been done to optimize balance for your higher level skills, looking at Assize and Aero III alone. I'd imagine one or two of BLM's new skills is a vastly more potent unlimited AoE as well.

[UBERHAXED]

Again, it seems this has been done to optimize balance for your higher level skills, looking at Assize and Aero III alone. I'd imagine one or two of BLM's new skills is a vastly more potent unlimited AoE as well.

Except the patch notes are already out and we know they only get blizzard IV and fire IV as attacking moves.

[Lillia]

This is seriously upsetting So what if we could speed run? I thought the classes were supposed to be unique. Yeah, I'm sure BLM will still be the best AoE class but this is a ridiculous nerf :/ WHM sorta makes sense--it is a healer after all, but seriously >.< Why not just a slight decrease in potency? D:

I did know BLM AoE was gonna get nerfed in exchange for better single target. Yoshi-P said something about that like a year ago. But dang. Wasn't expecting this

I understand how you may be upset by this but I personally do not define the term unique as speed-run mania. However everyone has their own opinions on things like this and are of course free to voice them, there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion after all.

Remember that BLM is getting IV spells though.

[aerolol]

Assize seems overpowered...
No MP cost, instant cast, 300 potency damage, 300 potency heal, and recover 10% of WHM MP.
In a 90s cooldown.


For comparison, Holy is 200 potency, medica is 300 cure potency, and Shroud of Saints has 120s cooldown...
=o

[Tranquil]

Assize seems overpowered...
No MP cost, instant cast, 300 potency damage, 300 potency heal, and recover 10% of WHM MP.
In a 90s cooldown.

It's a good ability, mainly for the MP recovery. The other stuff is nice too but it will (in all likelihood) end up being a shitty healing spell but a good damaging spell in Cleric Stance, whilst being an alright heal and a flaccid damaging spell outside of Cleric Stance. Also, it can probably miss (and will likely miss) in raiding content with the damage part of the skill.

[UBERHAXED]

Assize seems overpowered...
No MP cost, instant cast, 300 potency damage, 300 potency heal, and recover 10% of WHM MP.
In a 90s cooldown.


For comparison, Holy is 200 potency, medica is 300 cure potency, and Shroud of Saints has 120s cooldown...
=o

It's also on CD so the only thing you can compare it with it SoS, which i'm sure has more mp refresh potency anyway. Also let's not forget that the INT stat is at base to 300 potency is like 100 in reality. That or you go in to cleric stance and make the heal like 100 potency. Seems fair to me. Do you really compare Dragonfire Dive to a move on GCD like Doomspike?