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    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    It wasn't cred, it was "I experienced the games meta and kept up with and made very minor additions to the games theory crafting community". Summoner had no place in any endgame content until Alexander was released. Even then its primary use was for burning down Absolute Virtue. Because literally nothing else was so powerful that Alexander was necessary.

    And it is a fair comparison. Once Alexander was used, all Summoner has to it's name in Blood Pacts and weak avatar auto-attacks for damage. It lost to every other damage dealing job in every single multi-man fight because either the job itself (WAR/DRK/MNK/DRG/BLM/THF/DNC/NIN/RNG) was stronger or the job + pet (PUP/BST/DRG) was stronger than just the pet (SMN).
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    ThirdKeyOfSun's Avatar
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    Writ Mo'gi
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    Summoner had no place in any endgame content until Alexander
    I have no stake in this arguement as I am very much looking forward to trying out the new abilities and have hopes the Egi glamour will open up new and exciting possibilities we would not otherwise have...

    ..but I distinctly remember my endgame LS using the few summoners we had (myself included) quite a bit. One example being a certain Jailer in Sea. I cannot remember its name but it was an oblong shape and it would continually change what damage type could harm it (slash, blunt, pierce, etc). Our tanks would kite the Jailer around the room and we would summon and time our bloodpacts to hit the target just as it was passing into range. We were also used extensively on fights such as The Wyrmking Descends (Bahamut and his brood). We would main Leviathan spinning dives for this fight.

    We were predator claw turrets on Tiamat, I once had to main heal one of our parties with sub whm and healing ruby II during a Fafnir (very effectively I might add) and during the time that RMT were really bad in Sky we would form Titan walls to slow down their kiting tank during Zipacna after they would steal hate via cure and run off with it to turn the name white (this eventually led to very liberal use of /blockaid). Always used during Cerberus. I only had to use a different job once (RNG for chaining shadowbind with other rangers) during our 20+ hour Absolute Virtue marathon (which of course ended in failure and crushed dreams).

    This, however, was another lifetime ago entirely. I just wanted to say as a SMN main in XI and in a very active endgame LS none of the summoners were ever underutilized or ignored and we had plenty of people to spare if they didn't want to take us. Thankfully that was never the case. I will be going to bed now as I am very tired. I hope everyone here has a pleasant evening and can continue to get along as a summoner community in XIV ^^
    Farewell~
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    Last edited by ThirdKeyOfSun; 06-12-2015 at 04:36 PM.
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