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  1. #121
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    Cyrus-Wallace's Avatar
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphic View Post
    For new players that you are posting for, all of the 2.x content will be new to them anyways. So try and see it from that viewpoint, not as repeating the same content.


    I agree with you, though.
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  2. #122
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    Raist Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    It's still an MMO, so gameplay should technically take a front seat, or at least be sitting with plot (FFXI balanced this out by letting you unlock Jobs before even starting the expansions storyline). By the way and I said this in another thread: an MMO community should never tell people to leave. The only time you ever tell someone to leave is if they have no interest in the game whatsoever and only after you try to reel them in.


    Seriously...take a chill pill. Not the first post to point out that this game may not be for some of these players that don't like how they are gating the content.

    It's a freaking joke dude (or did you not catch the Hitch-hikers reference? maybe this image will jog the memory...if not, click the image for the video)



    "This is not WoW" is another sort of meme reference too. Perhaps you weren't there for them.

    But the simple fact remains, that this is a game in the FF franchise, designed by Japanese developers--and they have a fairly well established and consistent way of doing things. It isn't for everybody. That is why you had a sort of rivalry thing going between XI and WoW for so long---each catered to specific types of players. SE is just continuing their tradition. Some like it, some don't. Players will come, players will stay, and some will leave. That's just how it has always been, and how it will always be.
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    Last edited by Raist; 06-09-2015 at 01:24 PM.

  3. #123
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    really dont know why people keep complaining about stuff locked behind main story quests.. almost every final fantasy game has always been heavy story based,, plenty of games around that dont have any story whatsoever and everything available to you right from the start just a dull boring grind fest mmo with few quests so mayb go try 1 of those since by all the complaining those types of games are obviously more suited to the Q.Qers
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  4. #124
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    Soube Miseux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    Considering someone payed 40 dollars (In the US anyways) to have access to the content, there's no good reason why they shouldn't at least be allowed to step through the gates. Sure gate story quests behind progressing through the story, that actually makes sense, but not the entire region.
    Then don't pay the $40 until you know you can access the content?
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  5. #125
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    I really cannot believe some of the stuff I am hearing in here. What new player would want to start the game from the beginning? Who would want to skip so much of the game?? I mean if you were that interested you should have started from the beginning. But if I was starting now I would power through and still enjoy the story and then catch up to Heavensward. I am glad they are "Gating" the expansion it will help keep RMT bastard out of our game a little better than it is now. For the crafters out there that rush to get stuff done and make 100's of millions that you will never spend and that is all you do...too damn bad for you...play the game and stop just crafting. This is not a crafting game it is a frigging awesome story Warrior of Light game that has crafting in it...get over it. LOL
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  6. #126
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    Here's something interesting....they even tell you up front that you have to progress to a certain point in the story before you can access Heavensward
    * In order to enjoy the benefits of early access to Heavensward content, you need to be playing FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn and have made sufficient progress in the main scenario. As such, early access will not be available to new players who pre-order the FINAL FANTASY XIV Online all-in-one bundle and have yet to begin their adventures.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/heavensward/ - it's on the Product page where you see what you get and the prices and such.

    So... in all honesty, these new players should pretty much expect to have to do main story before they can access the expansion content.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    Here's something interesting....they even tell you up front that you have to progress to a certain point in the story before you can access Heavensward

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/heavensward/ - it's on the Product page where you see what you get and the prices and such.

    So... in all honesty, these new players should pretty much expect to have to do main story before they can access the expansion content.
    new players would be more interested in playing through n amazing storyline n exploring a gorgeous world.. accessing ishgard is gonna be the least of thier worries since the whole game is new to them
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raist View Post
    Here's something interesting....they even tell you up front that you have to progress to a certain point in the story before you can access Heavensward
    That isnt exactly true now is it?
    You dont have to progress to a certain point in the msq you have to complete it.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    new players would be more interested in playing through n amazing storyline n exploring a gorgeous world.. accessing ishgard is gonna be the least of thier worries since the whole game is new to them
    Are you sure? Most in this thread seem to think a new player is only concerned with creating a specfic class that they have no idea about. In a game where they have no experiece. They don't care about the huge experience you get with playing through the game and story. They only say "Hey, this game has a class called Machinist! I'm going to buy it!"
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuathaa View Post
    That isnt exactly true now is it?
    You dont have to progress to a certain point in the msq you have to complete it.
    I think what he means is that SE has made it sufficiently clear before you even purchase the expansion that just purchasing it will not grant you access to all of the content.
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