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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post

    And this is why female looks good in "male" outfits
    Um really, you're comparing people who wore feminine outfits for fun and a woman who clearly has a lot of experience in cosplay and professional make up, with a wig and fake facial hair. Those men just put clothes on, that wren't made for their body shape, while she did much more work to get to look like her character and more than probably created the clothes to her own shape, so of bloody course it's gonna look normal on her, she literally turned herself into a man, you can look up at a lot of men crossplaying also and find some very decent ones! (especially some japanese men)
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    Last edited by Ymal; 06-07-2015 at 08:01 PM.

  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I think Lalafell are fine as long as they add options in game to let us turn them off or on meaning we can choose if we want to see them or not.

    Seriously. That is a horrid suggestion. And while I may have this weird hatred of Lalafell, I don't demand anything be given to me for it - let people play what they want, and let 'em have fun with it. No different than from the Elin for me.
    Lalafell have been in this game since day 1 deal with it men in dresses have not if ppl are allowed to express why they want men in dresses then others have a right to express why they do not want men in dresses. It's called having a opinion and if ppl don't like others opinions then don't post or learn to deal with them nowhere in my other post was i rude i just said why i dis like the idea {because it looks goofy men do not look as good as girls do in dresses or at least to me} its my opinion if you dis like it move on
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Kine View Post
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    You know that sort of thing has been going on in discussions since the 60's right? Like even MLK Jr has views in line with it. You've got to critically examine why your opinions the way they are. Why do you find it uncomfortable? Chances are, if it's "I just don't want men in dresses"or "It's just not right" you're thinking along the of, well, bigoted people, ie "I don't want people to do this because I (morally speaking) think it's wrong and my morals are the right ones".

    Yeah, weird how there is bikini armor in this game? And it is somewhat of an issue in video games (You know, direct pandering to make female characters hot and appealing to strictly male audiences), so it's kind of patronizing for you to put it in quotes and act like it's a nonissue.
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Congrats for playing the "well you're problems are clearly insignificant to mine so you have no right to complain" card. You've just lost my support. I wasn't trying to dilute your issue, merely show we're on the same boat. But golly gee, guess I should just be happy and shut up now.
    LMAO you have the right to complain, but you said it as if oh poor people who play as female character get it hard too when obviously you get the big end of everything so far??? Go on and make your complain thread that you want that piece of gear if you want, but I stand by what I said, complaining here that you didn't get one version of an outfit FOR ONCE in this game while the other side is used to get nothing seems like nothing to me.

    I'm saying this as a VIDEO GAME matter, not irl situation, thanks for trying to make me look like I would say the same thing if it was an important real life problem.

    And your support doesn't really mean a thing in the end since it's not the opinion of the community that will decide if we get those gear or not but the devs themselves.
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    Last edited by Ymal; 06-07-2015 at 08:05 PM.

  5. #275
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    I don't know if I already posted this but all races and all genders in Lord of the Rings Online can crossdress and one would think that Middle Earth would be more strict about things than here? XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymal View Post
    Um really, you're comparing people who wore feminine outfits for fun and a woman who clearly has a lot of experience in cosplay and professional make up, with a wig and fake facial hair. Those men just put clothes on, she did much more work to get to look like her character, so of bloody course it's gonna look normal on her, she literally turned herself into a man, you can look up at a lot of men crossplaying also and find some very decent ones! (especially some japanese men)
    you kinda missed the point.
    female fits in male clothes, cause male clothes are uni-sex, fem clothes aren't.
    A guy would need to transgender, to fit into fem clothes, while she doesn't have to; She could have skipped the facial hair, and been Jackie Sparrow.
    Ya asian men are generally a bit more feminine looking, so it's easier for them to make it look good.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 06-07-2015 at 08:10 PM.

  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    you kinda missed the point.
    female fits in male clothes, cause male clothes are uni-sex, fem clothes aren't.
    A guy would need to transgender, to fit into fem clothes, while she doesn't have to; She could have skipped the facial hair, and been Jackie Sparrow.
    I just want to pipe up and say ALL clothes are unisex. Its society that chooses and labels what gender fits into what. This isn't even about being transgender lol.
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    I don't know if I already posted this but all races and all genders in Lord of the Rings Online can crossdress and one would think that Middle Earth would be more strict about things than here? XD
    Yea but this game was made in Japan and in Japan crossdressing is not a big thing and is more goofy. But sometimes works well if done right
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  9. #279
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    I may have missed the point but you gave such bad pictures example for men in women clothes that I had to react. Only the first guy fill up that dress pretty well. If that woman took some random man clothes not her size she would probably look pretty bad in those too.
    A good example of a young man crossplaying.



    Quote Originally Posted by Pomelo View Post
    I just want to pipe up and say ALL clothes are unisex. Its society that chooses and labels what gender fits into what. This isn't even about being transgender lol.
    Agreed. What make the 'gender' of the clothe is simply the cut if it, men don't go wear women clothes because it wouldn't fit them right or at all, while women can because men clothing usually a larger fit and can turn out to be more comfortable for them to wear.
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    Last edited by Ymal; 06-08-2015 at 08:04 AM.

  10. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    Yea but this game was made in Japan and in Japan crossdressing is not a big thing and is more goofy.
    You can look at JP games like Akiba's Trip. They support crossdressing so male can become maid, schoolgirl, or anything (but you can't crossdress underwear LOL). They even gives fanservice of stripped male character too.
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    Last edited by Eul; 06-07-2015 at 08:21 PM.

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