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  1. #221
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    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkPInk View Post
    Well I'm just going to take the higher road
    pfffhahahaha, is that where you think you stood?
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  2. #222
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ymal View Post
    One piece of gear with a tattoo sleeve doesn't equal the +10 pieces of gear that female have more than male. I think you should be glad that female got their own version compared to male characters that get nothing for all those glamour sets.
    Congrats for playing the "well you're problems are clearly insignificant to mine so you have no right to complain" card. You've just lost my support. I wasn't trying to dilute your issue, merely show we're on the same boat. But golly gee, guess I should just be happy and shut up now.
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  3. #223
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    Evantide Darkfyre
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    And dealing with actual sexism is not petty. Yes being okay with women wearing pants and suits while not being okay with men wearing dresses and skirts is sexist.
    This concept is petty compared to other quality of life concerns for this game. A "glamour" is not something that is going to directly affect the gameplay. Developer's should focus on the important game related items. If they bend to everyone's whim, then the game is going to go down hill due to the fact you can not please everyone.
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  4. #224
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    Calypsx's Avatar
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    Caly Umbra
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Evantide View Post
    This concept is petty compared to other quality of life concerns for this game. A "glamour" is not something that is going to directly affect the gameplay. Developer's should focus on the important game related items. If they bend to everyone's whim, then the game is going to go down hill due to the fact you can not please everyone.
    Some of us play this game specifically for glamour and collecting items and outfits. Like seriously my end game involves me dressing up my characters in cute outfits. Yours may be about doing pvp or coil or whatever. Not everyone plays the game for the same reason.

    Also customization does seem to be important game related things if they keep giving us new hairstyles and outfits. Nothing wrong with asking for more just like how people constantly ask for harder content, more balanced pvp, etc... It's all still content either way.

    I don't see why people are getting so defensive over this. If you don't want to wear it you don't have to, why is it a problem that people want an outfit for their characters? People ask for things on the forums all the time and if you don't want it on your character then that just means you're content with what you got and it's no big deal.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 06-07-2015 at 10:20 AM.

  5. #225
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    dresses that were made to show-off womens shapes just wouldn't fit.
    I agree in the sense that a lot of times I think it looks silly or poorly complemented, but I don't think I have a right to restrict what people wear. They should have every right to dress up their body how they like, regardless if I think it looks bad or not.

    I think a lot of the gear people use is pretty ugly and gaudy anyway. But again, that's my own problem.
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  6. #226
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evantide View Post
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    This is a video game, everything is petty compared to other things, what people prefer are subjective. People like glamours, and honestly if they just focus on "important game related items" then why bother making glamour at all. They make glamour to add fun and different gear to the game, they shouldn't go half way and make things exclusive to one option. People would be upset if gear was exclusive to Midlanders, a "They should focus on other things because not everyone would want it" isn't a valid point.
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  7. #227
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Congrats for playing the "well you're problems are clearly insignificant to mine so you have no right to complain" card. You've just lost my support. I wasn't trying to dilute your issue, merely show we're on the same boat. But golly gee, guess I should just be happy and shut up now.
    This is probably my final post because some people who support it and have an idea as to why they don't do it or think differently get immediately sent to the stake.
    I supported, gave reason to as to WHY they may not be able to do it and I nearly get chewed in the face and the pitchforks and angry mobs were ready.
    I still support NO gender outfits but you guys are going insane over it and being kind of mean. Just like you did Northern and ThinkPink who said
    "Not everyone is comfortable with the lifestyles" and proceeded to call her a bigot. Way to go. If you all act like Behemoth's they
    won't do anything, keep it civil! Both sides, please. They'll hear you much better. The GM already had to throw down the ban hammer and remove posts.
    Good luck.
    Here's a pic I saved for occasions like this:
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    Last edited by Mugiawara; 06-07-2015 at 10:50 AM.

  8. #228
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    Draco'li Tayuun
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    As far as I see it we are playing a video game. More options are better then less. There are parts of every outfit out there that only females get that I've thought would look great on a male. Could be gloves, skirt, etc. The point is that you lose that creativity if an outfit is stuck behind things such as being one gender or another. Let people be creative instead and open up more options such as this.
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  9. #229
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    Wolfyboy's Avatar
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    Silent Bear
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 36
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    This is probably my final post because some people who support it and have an idea as to why they don't do it or think differently get immediately sent to the stake.
    I supported, gave reason to as to WHY they may not be able to do it and I nearly get chewed in the face and the pitchforks and angry mobs were ready.
    I still support NO gender outfits but you guys are going insane over it and being kind of mean. Just like you did Northern and ThinkPink who said
    "Not everyone is comfortable with the lifestyles" and proceeded to call her a bigot. Way to go. If you all act like Behemoth's they
    won't do anything, keep it civil! Both sides, please. They'll hear you much better. The GM already had to throw down the ban hammer and remove posts.
    Good luck.
    Here's a pic I saved for occasions like this:
    I bolded this because this is honestly why she was mostly called a Bigot. I feel the term "Lifestyles" is a manner of dehumanizing people by sorting them into a group of so called "lower morality" and a manner in which to broad brush groups of individuals. I hate the derail the thread a little, but I'll give a quick example.

    "No one wants to see the GAY LIFESTYLE"
    A) Gay 1: Doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, healthy and outgoing and generally loves to help within' his community. He is reserved and a little on the prudish side, awaiting for "the one" to expose himself to.
    B) Gay 2: Does some hardcore drugs, sleeps around with any guy possible. He is distrusting of the community for the actions taken against him for his sexual orientation and has become a bit of a rebel. He has a bit of a habit of destroying other people's properties.

    Now, the question is: are these people really living the same lifestyle? The answer is clearly, "No!" By broad brushing in this manner, you're not even remotely attempting to understand the multiple reasoning behind why we desire this. Yes to be rude, you're viewing people in a narrow point of view.

    I feel a bit insulted with that comment because in fact I don't see how wearing the dancer's outfit to be even remotely cross dressing as I've always found kilt/skirts/etc generally looked great on guys. I'm sure some people would agree with that, especially with how beautiful some ancient Egyptian outfits are. Personally, I'd just change the top to have no cloth and just jewelry and I'd be all over the set.




    I would post my Roe in lighting similar to the OP; however, the game decided to stay night time. Once it returns to day, I'll post some screenshots again.

    Edit: I couldn't find that color scheme ingame, so I adjusted some saturation and brightness of the picture. Makes my guy a bit more "black and whitish" however; it seems to work. I also added your picture to use as reference so I can keep editing and adjusting.
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    Last edited by Wolfyboy; 06-07-2015 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Added pic for OP (2)

  10. #230
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    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    I still support NO gender outfits
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    "Not everyone is comfortable with the lifestyles" and proceeded to call her a bigot.
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    Yes. >:I
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