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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
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    I don't see how Nestama removed any features of the Au Ra, the scales and horns are still there, he just made one similar features to a Miqo'tell to point out how similar their body shape is, which is a hip pop to the left and thicker thighs.

    Honestly Nestama, I feel the Auri men have a lot more of a unique body shape, a different hip to waist ratio, smaller arms proportionally, and really wide shoulders, so I feel they end up looking very different that the Elezen if were talking silhouettes (or just making a similar looking one). They could look a lot different, but the differences are far more apparent than they are with the Auri girl/Miqo'te comparison.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    I don't see how Nestama removed any features of the Au Ra, the scales and horns are still there, he just made one similar features to a Miqo'tell to point out how similar their body shape is, which is a hip pop to the left and thicker thighs.

    Honestly Nestama, I feel the Auri men have a lot more of a unique body shape, a different hip to waist ratio, smaller arms proportionally, and really wide shoulders, so I feel they end up looking very different that the Elezen if were talking silhouettes (or just making a similar looking one). They could look a lot different, but the differences are far more apparent than they are with the Auri girl/Miqo'te comparison.
    Ok, where are the facial scales?. There is no reasoning in this discussion lol, people are trying their hardest to clone other races to make a point...its quite silly really. You can do this with almost any race unless you cover them in hair and give them fangs.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    Cat people are boring rabbit people got more identity and character.
    Mmm yes. Long round ears instead of short pointy ones.

    Just overflowing with character and identity.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
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    Even with the facial scales, which are hardly noticeable if you've got a white skin tone and are Raen, the silhouettes are incredibly similar. I'd be really curious on you making a girl Roegadyn look like a highlander girl, maybe you could make a Miqo'te look like a Midlander, but I'd be pretty sure we'd be able to tell the difference outside of postures. The key here is silhouettes and diverse by shapes, the Auri men are different enough (though they could be more), while the Auri women are nearly identical in body shape to the Miqo'te.
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  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    Even with the facial scales, which are hardly noticeable if you've got a white skin tone and are Raen, the silhouettes are incredibly similar. I'd be really curious on you making a girl Roegadyn look like a highlander girl, maybe you could make a Miqo'te look like a Midlander, but I'd be pretty sure we'd be able to tell the difference outside of postures. The key here is silhouettes and diverse by shapes, the Auri men are different enough (though they could be more), while the Auri women are nearly identical in body shape to the Miqo'te.
    Easy and i would but im not at my desk right now. You can change the skin tone too of course. And the scales make a huuge difference, and they're humanoids. They are also females which probably means they got most of their chromosomes from ice heart. The males probably got the stronger more broad look from the dragon blood.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikimaru View Post
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    Silhouettes and body shape are the issue here, not blonde hair and light skin. Even if you made a roegadyn lady and a highlander with the exact same choices, it'd still look different, very different. Elezen and Auri men have similar but distinct body shapes due to divergences in the face, shoulders, waist, hips, and arms. Note how I don't bring up the scales or tail at all, why? Because if you slapped a tail and scales on the Elezen, I'd wager that the silhouettes of the Auri men would look still distinct. Theories on their origin aside, which the Shiva/Dragon kids story doesn't make sense being that Odin existed for over a thousand years and he received Zantetsuken from an Auri warrior which predates Shiva being even alive for a long while, women can still be quite tall you know? And Shiva, presumably being Elezen being someone that was high in Ishgard society, sure isn't Midlander size and the men sure aren't as big as other dragons.
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  7. #197
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    For 100 characters you'd have:


    This is based on my server stats.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    Scales, fur, tails, fins on the head and more obviously animal faces would work. Long claws on both feet and hands.

    Hell, Aion Asmodian tail is actually a mane down the middle of the back and they wear "heels" because that spike is actually a claw.

    Miqo and Au Ra are human girls with tails and ears. Vanguard did similar (human body, animal head) and folks complained there too.

    What people are asking for is something that isn't very obviously a Hume with different ears/tail/skin color.

    Now maybe if Au Ra were completely covered head to toe in those scales, making them look more alien, they'd pass.
    Ew, no thanks I'm looking forward to my Au Ra and I would not touch ANYTHING covered from head to foot in scales that just plain look ugly and blegh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyChain View Post
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    You sure you don't have the Highlander gender ratio backwards there?
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  10. #200
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    I think that the au ra males are very different, just the females look a little too similar to hyurs/miqo'te. I was hoping that the scales would be smaller, more like body jewelry than the sort of plate look that they have right now..

    I would love a small animal like race, though. Something like the little mouse race that someone posted earlier in this thread, or the moogles from FFT and FFXII would be adorable.
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