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  1. #31
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    It wasn't considered for the 2.0 storyline, BUT they have announced that Healers will be expected to DPS in Heavensward! I just wish there wasn't a cool-down on clicking Cleric Stance, and that we can click it while casting other spells.
    I would actually prefer the cooldown, but a shorter one, for both enabling and disabling it.
    Often times I'm mashing it to turn it off and end up turning it back on. Oops!


    But in regards to the topic, I would like to see healers encouraged to dps more often, rather than stand around waiting for a time to heal. It really keeps the flow going and, in my experiences as a healer, adds more fun and excitement than it is to stand and do nothing. In the end, it's optional, so both playstyles can work fine.
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  2. #32
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    By the way.
    *Rage-slaps monitor a million times in anti-insect sentiment*
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  3. #33
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    SovereignAegis's Avatar
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    As someone who mains Scholar I am offended at this.

    I have no issue swapping between DPSing and healing on the fly- and in fact it is the primary core reason I love healing in this game. I don't just spam heals all day long senselessly. I get in there and smack some faces too while my fairy offheals. I can as a scholar do 5 things at once very easily and cleric stance allows me to be efficient in doing these things.

    Just because you had someone use a skill wrong doesn't mean that it isn't an AMAZING and USEFUL skill- it is an amazing and useful ability and lets us fulfill and bring more to the team. You should be happy for that.
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  4. #34
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    I agree with desufin, I have never seen this "healers are discriminated for not DPSing" environment, he probably had a bad experience about a dumb group of people harassing him or some friend of him for not DPSing as a healer, but guess what, dumb people will always harass anyway.
    Stop spreading false bs saying that "healers must DPS now" is becoming the norm, because it isn't.

    People also sometimes complain about BRDs not singing. What should we do? Get rid of BRDs' songs so that people playing BRD don't feel discriminated when they are not confident singing?

    And then you ask yourselves why we can't have nice things like ingame parsers. Well, people like the TC are the reason.

    Let's just disable everything, let's make the game a straight corridor where you just win by spamming X (FFXIII anyone?). Don't give players the chance to press O because those that are used to only pressing X might possibly feel discriminated.
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  5. #35
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    Kuurei's Avatar
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    Kurei Hitaka
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Don't hate on Cleric Stance, hate on the bad healers who don't pay attention and forget to turn it off, leading to unnecessary wipes. Psst -- This is a very small fraction of healers, surprisingly.
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  6. #36
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    It wasn't considered for the 2.0 storyline, BUT they have announced that Healers will be expected to DPS in Heavensward! I just wish there wasn't a cool-down on clicking Cleric Stance, and that we can click it while casting other spells.
    Well from what I could ascertain from the info given, it is only for Alex savage where healer DPS will make or break the fight. For everything else it will help but won't be required.

    Annoys me these posts that try to take away from what is in game just because the OP doesn't want to or cannot (which I find more believable) from those who are capable of pushing their job to its full potential. By being able to DPS as a healer it adds depth to the job instead of a singular focus.

    Also disabling cleric stance in combat won't stop healers from DPSing at all. It will just make their DPS less effective. It doesn't increase mana cost being in clerics.

    To sum up: Just because you unable to manage role switching when feasible does not mean no-one else should be able to. Stop being so selfish and get better at your role.
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    Last edited by Sapphic; 06-06-2015 at 01:45 AM.

  7. #37
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    It wasn't considered for the 2.0 storyline, BUT they have announced that Healers will be expected to DPS in Heavensward! I just wish there wasn't a cool-down on clicking Cleric Stance, and that we can click it while casting other spells.
    Partially true. Alexander Hard (Extreme? Seriously, unless it's part of the main story does Hard need be called Extreme?) will be balanced with Healers DDing occasionally whereas Normal will be run as normal, with healers only expected to heal. No, seriously, Square was genuinely surprised by Healers not healing. To think they ran all of Coil with not a single Healer contributing to DDing (how do you think they set the iL for the content? By running them themselves with a variety of gear sets).

    Append: Oops, wrong quote. And very late to the party. ^<^;
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  8. #38
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Wow what a bad post
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  9. #39
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    Oly'ver White
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I have recently got into healing (my first 50 was SMN so I kinda had an instant SCH) and found it fun without the use of Cleric though things would get boring. I have had those runs where I was forced to be a heal bot and found that it really limits my potentional to help the party get through mobs faster. Knowing when you can stance dance adds a good layer of complexity to healing if this was disabled during combat it would basically force healers to be heal bots and like I said there is no fun in that at least for me. So it is best to leave it as is so there is an option for those that want to dps and for those that don't let them just heal there is more than one way to play a role
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    Last edited by OlyverW; 06-06-2015 at 01:55 AM.

  10. #40
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Sure, let's remove options so as to forcibly lower the bar even further where healer expectations are concerned. I don't think that the OP intended to make a joke, but that's really what this thread is, I'm afraid.

    I'd be offended if I thought for a moment that Yoshi and team would actually consider removing CS for group play, but based on Yoshi's commentary, that's obviously not happening.
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