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  1. #2031
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Wow its like you guys forget SMN exists.

    Aetherflow at 6.

    No Aetherdam until 8, nor Energy Flow until 8.

    Granted technically aetherflow grants mana...but if you're running out of mana at level 6 then...hrm.

    Guessing Enochian will probably do something other than simply allowing fire/blizz 4, but if it doesn't, then it will be 2 abilities at the same level, like Aetherdam/Energy Flow.
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  2. #2032
    Player Skeith-Adeline's Avatar
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
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    Lol. We didn't forget, we aren't just going to compare level 50-60 learning to level <10
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  3. #2033
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    Yeah because there is no way that it is just sloppy wording, amirite ?
    The Japanese version of the digest says the same thing.

    Yoshida kinda stopped just short of saying that during the Live Letter but I don't think they'd just add that sort of thing to the digest unless that's the message they wanted to send.
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  4. #2034
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    Casper Theghost
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    They already said that echonian is giving you a small boost on top of allowing use of B4/F4. So yeah getting it alone makes perfect sense -- won't be the most mind blowing level to reach ever, but it does make sense.

    You guys forget that there had been lots of people playing the preview and reporting on it, without leaving anything out. There is no secret surprise, no "ah HA!" moment where they left surprise eggs all over the game for each class. We already know for a fact there will be no trait, for any class, and if there was anything elsebut what they talked about, we would have heard at the very least some kind of rumor, mention, whatever.

    As for the one pointing out monk: well now, chakra building does not do anything on its own, so here it is likely that they will get one of the two uses for the stack with the ability. It will also fit so that they have 5 new ability, like... Everyone else \o/ Meanwhile it has been said already that echonian gave a small damage boost when up, so the situation is not the same than for monk; and as said, no one has reported even the slightiest rumor of anything else existing despite black mage being the most featured job in the preview. If there was something else to look forward, we would have heard of it by now. Given all that, and given that B4/F4 don't do anything without echonian, are you really going to tell me that the most likely is not that the mods just got a bit hasty, and that what was meant is that you get the pieces of your echonian rotation one by one and only at 60 do you have to deal with the whole enchilada ?
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  5. #2035
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    Waliel Hla
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    I've never read from anywhere that Enochian alone does anything. Any source for that?
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    They already said that echonian is giving you a small boost on top of allowing use of B4/F4. So yeah getting it alone makes perfect sense -- won't be the most mind blowing level to reach ever, but it does make sense.
    Post source.
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  7. #2037
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    Casper Theghost
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Post source.
    Was during the live letter gameplay, Yoshida made a remark about that, if i remember correctly.

    As said anyway, it is the only thing that makes sense. If there was anything else that what we know, we would have at least heard something, anything really, about it.
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  8. #2038
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Nothing I saw, from LLXXI to the Famitsu article, gave me the impression that Enochian does anything besides let you use F4/B4. The buff is F4.

    As for the claims that the reporters covered everything, and that the live letter doesn't say things it says, and that the live letter does say things it doesn't say: lol.
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  9. #2039
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    Demon Skrit of casting is missing on the "The Ultimate BLM Resources with Damage Calculator by Puro Strider"

    dunno if its been posted before or not, but the Demon Skrit (gear lv 120) is the 2nd best BLM pants with Int: "57.364", just slightly before the high allagan breeches (gear lv 110)with Int: "57.307"

    (was just checking my gear again, and came across the very helpfull "The Ultimate BLM Resources with Damage Calculator by Puro Strider" list again...)
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  10. #2040
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    Yolo Swaggins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    Demon Skrit of casting is missing on the "The Ultimate BLM Resources with Damage Calculator by Puro Strider"

    dunno if its been posted before or not, but the Demon Skrit (gear lv 120) is the 2nd best BLM pants with Int: "57.364", just slightly before the high allagan breeches (gear lv 110)with Int: "57.307"

    (was just checking my gear again, and came across the very helpfull "The Ultimate BLM Resources with Damage Calculator by Puro Strider" list again...)
    The spreadsheet hasn't been updated for a long time, and there's not much reason to until 60. It doesn't include zeta/WoD and crafted accessories.

    Also if you want to use the stat weights listed there, the crafted pants pull slightly ahead of the demon ones when melded with 4 crit IVs and SS IV
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