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    I found this on the Heavensward website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Yoshi-P has gone on the record that the 3.X 24 man will not be a nostalgia dungeon like CT in order to avoid having "24 man= nostalgia dungeon" locked in. Floating Continent might still end up as one of the 8 dungeons in 3.0 though. 8 man maybe?
    Look at the new Dungeon video.

    It would be surprising me, if that is not part of the floating continent.

    At 5:06 you can see the typical Crystal Tower shortcut transport stone for a moment. At 5:30 you can see 3 big plattforms that really look like made for 3 alliances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthSanguine View Post
    I found this on the Heavensward website.

    Well that's the Triad outright confirmed then. I suppose now we can ask what the hell Allag was doing with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Well that's the Triad outright confirmed then. I suppose now we can ask what the hell Allag was doing with them?
    Death, doom, despair. End of the world as we know it. Cats and dogs living together.

    Whatever it was, I'm sure they meant well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Well that's the Triad outright confirmed then. I suppose now we can ask what the hell Allag was doing with them?
    Increasingly I'm falling for my own ludicrous theory, seeing those winged Ixali really helped, as does absolute confirmation of a Warring Triad.

    Given the Allags tendency to augment bodies (see: Scylla, heck all the Crystal Tower Allags are freakishly big), the fact that they basically reached a point of immortality (Xandes), and their global domination... Yeah... My money is on the Warring Triad being Allag survivors. They are on a floating island, the quakes Xandes Calamity caused shouldn't really have impacted them. One of them kept a more human form (Goddess), one of them took a more bestial route (Fiend) similar to whatever Amon did to Scylla, the other continued Xandes obsession with the Void and went full on Voidsent (Demon). They battle for dominance, since the victor would basically be able to rule the world forever. Bring up some creatures from the surface, force them to fight your battles for you. Lets say the Goddess played with Ixali, maybe created Garuda. Fiend creates the Lord of Snakes. Epic battle between the two. Garuda (who's theme I might point out, is Fallen Angel) becomes part of Ixali myth, today becoming their Primal. Eventually they stop fighting for the same reason they stopped in Final Fantasy VI, take that Garuda example and spread it across most of the other Primals, Allag seemed to hate Primals and they basically just created a bunch, good enough reason to stop as any. Finally we get to Heavensward and they're rediscovered, lets just hope that (assumed) IVth Legion Legate is all we'll see. Moment I see VIth Legion so much as mentioned I am going to be losing my shit.

    Kinda wonder how this will connect to the existing War of the Magi lore we have. A more sensible theory would be to assume that the Warring Triad represent the three "factions"; Goddess = Hydaelyn. Fiend = Primals/Ascians? Demon = Voidsent. Interestingly we know of three dimensions. The one we "live" on. The Aetherial realm. And the Void. I guess the Ascians also have their own little pocket dimension as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Well that's the Triad outright confirmed then.
    So when we think ahead, we possibly could see .... Kefka?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    So when we think ahead, we possibly could see .... Kefka?
    The Sixth Imperial Legion eventually makes it's way to Eorzea and the insane Sixth Legatus disturbs the Allag Triad thus ending 3.0 and ushering in... A REALM RUINED 4.0


    Man, I really hope the Triad isn't an Allag construct but something the Allag discovered :s
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    I'll point out: it has never been stated any-damn-where that the Twelve have been worshipped consistently in Eorzea across every era.

    Heck, logic would dictate the faith has waxed and waned throughout the epochs.

    So: the gods of Allag, and or the gods of the Fifth Astral Era for that matter, might not be our gods.

    :3

    I've actually been idly speculating in private about that for a while now. I really can't wait for Heavensward at this point (though I'm bummed that the Triad probably won't come into deep play until 3.1, knowing the usual schedule).

    (It's also possible a hybrid of the above idea and an earlier idea are correct, too - they're "ascended" Allagan survivors who were then also worshipped as gods remotely in the Fifth Astral by Amdapor, Nym and Black-Mage-Town. That would also be thematically appropriate to FFVI and would nicely tie in to the continued development of the Allagan lore.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Kinda wonder how this will connect to the existing War of the Magi lore we have. A more sensible theory would be to assume that the Warring Triad represent the three "factions"; Goddess = Hydaelyn. Fiend = Primals/Ascians? Demon = Voidsent. Interestingly we know of three dimensions. The one we "live" on. The Aetherial realm. And the Void. I guess the Ascians also have their own little pocket dimension as well.
    Just to note, if any of the three are associated with Voidsent, it'll be Majin, the Fiend. "Demon" really wasn't a very good fit for 鬼神 (kishin), but we could build an entire new thread out of that...

    (Also very curious to see how Ferne & co. handle kishin - that one's really swung wildly between various FFVI translations, and there's a billion ways to translate it, all of them of debatable "correctness"!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post


    Just to note, if any of the three are associated with Voidsent, it'll be Majin, the Fiend. "Demon" really wasn't a very good fit for 鬼神 (kishin), but we could build an entire new thread out of that...

    (Also very curious to see how Ferne & co. handle kishin - that one's really swung wildly between various FFVI translations, and there's a billion ways to translate it, all of them of debatable "correctness"!)
    Uh, I think that Kishin means Demon God. Not 100% sure but I'm at least 85% on that. But then again Japenese is the language of single words with a dozen meanings. Where as english is the Language with a dozen words having the same meaning. Must be why translation between the two is so frigging hard.
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    I think it's because the Oni (鬼) from japan culture aren't really demons, not the same demons we have in christian myths anyway, they can mean a lot of thing, either demon (understand evil creatures) or protector, they usually are fierce and really powerful warriors. According to the dictionnary the translation is fierce god so I guess fierce is the part that is retained through that kanji and not so the evil part.
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