why am i getting a duty finder penalty after being kicked

[Lemuria]

oh i didn't know you can get auto kicked thats weird they need to take that system out

To be fair, if you're being auto-kicked it's because you're not actually doing anything and are just sitting idle. That's something I'd rather keep in the game since leeching tactics are arguably the worst thing you can do besides selling gil.

[papichulo123]

so only auto kick gives you a penalty???

[Xenor]

Yeah that's probly what it was. Seems pretty dumb. premade parties shouldn't have penalties for that, it's not like queuing for roulettes in a full party are helping any other players with their dungeons.

It makes complete sense. If you use roulette to fish for a dungeon you like then it's no longer roulette yet you're still reaping the roulette bonus. I suppose they could just take your roulette bonus away for the day instead.

[Kiroh]

so only auto kick gives you a penalty???

Auto-kick, or being the first person to leave the duty with a full group otherwise.

[Tagihi]

oh i didn't know you can get auto kicked thats weird they need to take that system out

ithink if ur afk more then 5min ur be auto kicked and then you get a penalty to

[Ashkendor]

Yeah that's probly what it was. Seems pretty dumb. premade parties shouldn't have penalties for that, it's not like queuing for roulettes in a full party are helping any other players with their dungeons.

Before the penalty was instituted, if we got a dungeon in roulette that we didn't like, we'd just leave and requeue for something else. Not having the penalty basically takes the roulette out of your roulette.

oh i didn't know you can get auto kicked thats weird they need to take that system out

Um, how about no? I don't want to be stuck with even more AFK people in dungeons than I already see.

[Zaft]

As much as I want to agree with you, but there is always people who abuse the kick system as well. I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty mad if I got kicked and got a penalty cause someone decided it'd be fun to abuse the vote kick system.

There are people who abuse the legal system. Should it simply be removed?

[Jamein]

They really should add in the 30 minute penalty for being kicked from a dungeon, sure some people will get an unjustified kick, but there are far more people who just try to get themselves kicked from a dungeon so they don't incur the penalty.

80% of the time, if you get kicked it was probably justified, so you should get a 30 minute time out for being a douchwagon.

[kyuven]

There are people who abuse the legal system. Should it simply be removed?

No, but if laws don't work they should be changed. They work in this case.
There's any number of legitimate reasons you'd need to votekick someone to where you wouldn't want to stick them with a penalty, or where they wouldn't deserve one.
For example, needing to take an extended AFK that would inconvenience the party but wouldn't equal the 30 minute penalty, or disconnecting due to a modem reset, brief outage, or the like.
You don't get jail time for a speeding ticket, y'know.

80% of the time, if you get kicked it was probably justified, so you should get a 30 minute time out for being a douchwagon.

Since AFK and offline count as "justified," but can be beyond the kick-ees control, a 30 minute penalty is a terrible idea. Those two choices are all the go-to options for people who request to be kicked because, say, they're being called for a raid and CAN'T eat the 30 minute penalty.

[Jamein]

Since AFK and offline count as "justified," but can be beyond the kick-ees control, a 30 minute penalty is a terrible idea. Those two choices are all the go-to options for people who request to be kicked because, say, they're being called for a raid and CAN'T eat the 30 minute penalty.

I think AFK definitely counts as justified and you should get a 30 minute penalty. We're not talking you go AFK for a minute here and if you need to take an extended AFK then fine that will eat into your penalty time anyway, stuff happens and occasionally people might get penalized for things a little more than they should, but overall it would be better for the majority of circumstances. Also same goes for offline, if you're gone for a couple of minutes most people wont kick. In most of the parties I've ever been in if someone goes afk for a little while and says so beforehand then it's fine I can wait, if someone goes offline I'll give em a little while to come back, D/C's happen.

Requesting to be kicked because you have to go to raid is still a crappy thing to do, what if you're the tank, and that group then spends 30 minutes looking for another tank to join because you signed up for a dungeon 15 minutes before raid time, or because someone asked you to do something better after you went in and you now think those other 3 guys in the group should suffer the wait because you want to go raid instead and not have to wait around for the penalty to wear off. You're saying THEY should have to wait around for the group to re-fill because YOU have to leave and because YOU don't want to have to wait for the penalty? Sound logic right there.

Course if we are really getting into it we can make an argument for a 15 minute penalty for being kicked over a 30 minute penalty for leaving. I personally still think something should be there.