The Ultimate Black Mage Resources with Damage Calculator

[Maero]

Meh we will still be King Of Aoe
I am excited but also concerned in a way about the new implementations, lol

[Aikaal]

Meh we will still be King Of Aoe

That has no value in raid. At best, you'll have to deal with 3-4 adds and Summoner is enough for that. Most fights with adds, you had to take them down 1 by 1 (I'm thinking of the bennus)

I don't have worries about Enochian sharingt he issue with monks right now. Enochian is a 90 sec cooldown, you won't go in a downtime every 30 second. if you know there's incoming downtime in like 20 seconds and Enochian came back, it's best just not use it. This is by far less worst than having a downtime as a monk after 2 minutes and PB is still not up. People will need to be smart about Enochian. Don't forget without it, we go back to the current F1 rotation we use.

I... don't see Enochian have a single value in AoE.

Btw, did Purostrider died? I would have expected a reply or so from the guy by now. Not it personally matter to me... I'm gonna work on my own with few people in Gilgamesh

[Skeith-Adeline]

Still hoping Fire 4 has something other than flare value st damage lol

[StouterTaru]

Assuming 260 potency, a 4x Fire IV 1x Fire rotation without procs would be about a 10% damage boost over 5x Fire rotation with procs.

[Sleigh]

Assuming 260 potency, a 4x Fire IV 1x Fire rotation without procs would be about a 10% damage boost over 5x Fire rotation with procs.

By my calculations, Fire I with a free Firestarter check is roughly 76 PPS, 250 potency F4 would be 83.33 PPS, 260 potency would be 86.66 PPS. The 250 would be about 9% stronger within the rotation, 260 estimation would be about 13% stronger within the rotation.

I think a F4 X 4, F1 X 1 rotation will probably lead to the highest dummy numbers, at least in terms of raw damage output. I feel like F1 X 2, F4 X 3 will be more practical in mobile fights/parts of a fight, it should in theory only be about a 1.5% average potency loss for the rotation but if you make use of the Firestarter in any meaningful way then it'd make up for it.

[Garotte14]

I think a F4 X 4, F1 X 1 rotation will probably lead to the highest dummy numbers, at least in terms of raw damage output. I feel like F1 X 2, F4 X 3 will be more practical in mobile fights/parts of a fight, it should in theory only be about a 1.5% average potency loss for the rotation but if you make use of the Firestarter in any meaningful way then it'd make up for it.

This is pretty much what I've been thinking. We rely so much on procs for our movement, that we'd acutally lose a lot of dps if we aren't getting as many procs.

[Maero]

That has no value in raid. At best, you'll have to deal with 3-4 adds and Summoner is enough for that. Most fights with adds, you had to take them down 1 by 1 (I'm thinking of the bennus)

While true in many situations, tanks for instance are more then happy to have blms then any other classes for the mass pull, aoe stuff in dungeons.
One could not 100% dismiss aoe being of no value, coil is different but not all players care to run that. Players who do not raid (coil) are not lesser of a player, i mean i have run coil but just saying. Soo many bad "Dreadwyrm" mages out there almost makes me wonder if they got carried, lol
Blms can also do more ST damage then Ninjas, dragoons or Monks (not always of course) and smn is behind all of it. I really do feel bad for the class as it stands now and know some summoners who d'ont care too much for the upcoming changes

Puro- yes he has not been on for ages, what gives.. would be nice to hear his ideas

[Skeith-Adeline]

He said it has no value in raids, not in all content lol.

[StouterTaru]

By my calculations, Fire I with a free Firestarter check is roughly 76 PPS, 250 potency F4 would be 83.33 PPS, 260 potency would be 86.66 PPS. The 250 would be about 9% stronger within the rotation, 260 estimation would be about 13% stronger within the rotation.

Firestarter may be a 40% proc, but you won't get 40% in reality unless you wait for over half a second after each fire cast to see if the proc hits. In a 5 fire rotation, you will average just under 1 firestarter use per rotation under AF3.

The umbral phase also needs to be included in total damage, as well as damage boost to fire spells under AF3.

In mobile fights, I don't think Enocian would be worth keeping up, due to the need to jump to the umbral phase with MP just to get off BIV and maintain it. If it's up use it, if not old school Fire I.

[Maero]

He said it has no value in raids, not in all content lol.

I know but he quoted me directly from saying blm will still be aoe King, point being it's still of value especially to those who do not raid.
Sooo there was no need to quote me in the first place
Not a big deal, lol