HW bard- channeling?

[Viar]

That's the point. You can't charge into auto-attack under wm the way, say, you can burst Aero II into Aero. You just don't have any auto-attacks while buffed by the song. The song basically makes us a less clunkier caster than a normal BLM/SMN. A crazy trade-in, but should stimulate people to git gud with BRD.

So, as a BRD main, I'd probably avoid using it as much as possible in heavy movement stuff similar to Titan EX, but it's extremely valuable for situations like Garuda EX where you've got all the time in the world to sit back and DPS the hell out of Garuda/other flying monsters.

Oh, but GCD ticking off while the cast is going is a valid point, indeed.

[ruskie]

I just wish the animation made more sense. We shouldn't be channeling while reaching for an arrow, but while actually aiming at our target.

Agreed - maybe a bit more pull back on the bow or something as the animation. But I have a feeling the channeling might be channeling aether into the arrow itself. Also I wonder if this is what skillspeed will be used for or will it be subject to spellspeed.

[Viar]

Using SS for that makes no sense. OO Hey, guys, how about a new groundbreaking song that turns a completely irrelevant secondary stat into the new Crit? SkS, on the other hand...

[pandabearcat]

Breaking channel to autoattack is obviously not the point of the song. They will either make the damage difference include autoattacks, or make them continue during it. If people are doing stutter channeling for dps my money is on they will fix that immediately, because it is not a productive dps mechanic and severely penalizes those with high ping.

My big concern is whether you can bloodletter during the channel.

Since casters cannot do oGCDs while channeling, this is my big fear.

[ruskie]

Using SS for that makes no sense. OO Hey, guys, how about a new groundbreaking song that turns a completely irrelevant secondary stat into the new Crit? SkS, on the other hand...

Well song casts are impacted by SS why I am wondering what else they might add.

[Viar]

Well song casts are impacted by SS why I am wondering what else they might add.

SC for songs. Please, SE.

[Shuon]

Wait I'm confused... I was under the impression wm will add a cast time/channeling phase to existing abilities I.e. venom bite will have the cast time, wind bite will have cast time, straight shot will have cast time etc

is that right?

[ruskie]

Wait I'm confused... I was under the impression wm will add a cast time/channeling phase to existing abilities I.e. venom bite will have the cast time, wind bite will have cast time, straight shot will have cast time etc

is that right?

Correct. And will make you a turret basically. Can't move or you lose the cast.

SC for songs. Please, SE.

I soooo want this.

[RinchanNau]

I'm looking forward to seeing how to optimize the use of this new song. Really can't wait to hear for info/try it for myself. It's a nice new wrinkle being added to BRD. I've been seeing complaints about taking away BRD mobility.. And sure, that will be lost at times, but it's just going to help make the job more interesting to optimize for each encounter.

Unless they add another skill to occasionally enable auto attack during charges/casts this song will likely want to be off whenever Barrage is available. But who knows for certain? Depending on exactly how much extra damage this song gives BRD as well as encounter mechanics it might even be better to pop your CDs outside of Barrage with the song activated provided movement is minimal and just saving Barrage for when you are forced to move. This would, however, change Barrage into a much weaker buff since it wouldn't 100% always be stacked with Hawk's Eye and Blood for Blood anymore. Another option is that Barrage has a different effect when used with Wanderer's Minuet up. Doubling the charge/cast speed for 10s sounds appealing and comparable.

Much excitement.

Wait I'm confused... I was under the impression wm will add a cast time/channeling phase to existing abilities I.e. venom bite will have the cast time, wind bite will have cast time, straight shot will have cast time etc

is that right?

That's what they made it sound like. I wouldn't be surprised if each attack were given a 50% potency increase given how high a percentage auto attacks are in BRD damage as well as Bloodletter procs that may or may not be used with this new song up. Not quite sure how Bloodletter and Misery's End will fit in yet. Time will tell!

[Elandir]

Bards become black mages. I realize bards currently do less damage than most other classes, but is the best way for us to do higher damage to turn us into one of the other classes? If I want to play like another dps class, why wouldn't I just play as that dps class?

I think bards should either maintain auto-attack while using this song, or maintain the ability to move and use the abilities.

One of the reasons I love bard is it's mobility and constantly doing attacks or off the gcd abilities. Do we just completely lose bloodletter, misery's end, repelling shot, and blunt arrow? Do we just drop Minuet when barrage is up? Then spend another 3 seconds recasting it when buffs fall off.

Maybe in practice, this will be wonderful and fun skill. As it's written, this is killing the fun of the class. Even at it's best, I can't see this being a great concept change for the class. I see a lot of bards changing class if the skill goes live as described.