




Lol? I didn't say anything like that. RNG is RNG. It's not good. It's not bad. It's not fair. It's not unfair. It's just random. I'd like to see more people get their Zodiacs, honestly. Like I said, another person making a Zodiac in no way devalues mine.



When I said DF...I meant as in, queue by yourself in the DF. Not with friends or anyone.pony farm is a lot easier it has been nerfed. i started farming with my friend, and in 3 parties that were about 1/2 hour each, i got ramuh and shiva for my self, and titan for her. on many occasions titan ex drops on first kill. poney farm has been over nerfed in my opion for somethign that has no value other than glamour. while relics can be actually usefull, as they can be used as weapons in the game.
Yes they have been nerfed, but did you actually try farming the initial 3 when they first came out? The zodiac quest line is nothing compared to that.
I didn't get anything last night for my Zodiac grind either. Big deal, I'll just do it again today. Play more, complain less.


I think this has more to do with self perception than actual fact. Because I honestly don't see it that way. To me the reward isn't the item itself, but the product of the item, be it healing, tanking, or dps. And besides I'm certain there are people who got theirs with less effort, just like some people who're still running things without results, there's a few people who probably got most; if not all their items, in just a handful of runs or less (I'm one of them). You got the item and damage/healing/mitigating capability.. you're not being invalidated. = /
Why not? Explain this further if you would.The fact that they said Zeta people get a leg up in the next update alone means they should not be nerfing it yet.
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Honestly, I don't think anyone's said anything about Relic getting nerfed. All I've heard is that Heavensward will see the process of getting one become easier, though how much easier isn't known. That's it. Relic will still be Relic, and still be the best in slot (after Novus) until Mythic.
The formula for droprate is the number of minutes spent in the dungeon using the duty time limit as reference, divided by two, equals percent chance to drop. So the target drop chance is typically 8-16% chance.

I must be very lucky then. I have completed 146 out of the 160 dungeon drops required for all 10 Zodiacs.
I thought you are done with this shit
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...one-with-it-SE.
And why don't you use your old thread, you even used the same title
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-zodiac-quest-....
same old crying and whining...Just for that in one of their previous posts SE should reduce the drop rate just for them to 0.01% XDi had this quest since the release of zodiac quest all my friends have finished one or even 2 of them and i still can't get it done, the RNG is just errible, and why the hell we must help new players to get a new weapon? shud not the weapon be linked to some end game challange? is the duty finder system not working SE? is it too boring for people to run the same dungen and again unlesss it's for a relic?
Maybe if the OP didn't rage so much while typing their spelling would improve :P
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Ah..I don't know if I am tired or what (It is 1am here haha)but I do not understand ; ; I don't want to reply without fully understanding what you are trying to sayI think this has more to do with self perception than actual fact. Because I honestly don't see it that way. To me the reward isn't the item itself, but the product of the item, be it healing, tanking, or dps. And besides I'm certain there are people who got theirs with less effort, just like some people who're still running things without results, there's a few people who probably got most; if not all their items, in just a handful of runs or less (I'm one of them). You got the item and damage/healing/mitigating capability.. you're not being invalidated. = / Why not? Explain this further if you would.If I am correct in thinking, they should do away with a lot of the RNG. Some is okay, but I think boss fights would be more effective, engaging and fun. The entire relic quest seems like it is about helping new people and redoing very old content, instead of fresh, new and challenging content aimed towards end game middle ground stuff.
Regarding the explanation:
SureIt is because the people who invested a lot of time and effort into the finished Zeta get a head start in the new Zodiac quest as a reward. If SE continues nerfing things too quickly, it will nullify the reward..and thus, less people will do it (People in MMO mostly do things for rewards..I would say) and just wait for them to nerf it. Those who have not invested their time and effort in a Zeta will not have a head start in the 3.1 Relic quest.


nerf Animus to Novus too. it shouldn't be able to fail melding materia.

Sure, lets make an MMO with no challenging content at all.
Just like that other crappy thread 50% echo on everything in the game too.
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If I am correct in thinking, they should do away with a lot of the RNG. Some is okay, but I think boss fights would be more effective, engaging and fun. The entire relic quest seems like it is about helping new people and redoing very old content, instead of fresh, new and challenging content aimed towards end game middle ground stuff.

