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  1. #21
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    If it's one dude multi-boxing: if he wants to pay for half a dozen copies of the game, then half a dozen sub fees when it goes p2p then more power to him. He's going to be insignificant anyway.

    If it's RMT: You simply have no hard proof. SE can't ban on vaguely interpretable screen shot. How would you feel if SE perm banned your account because some random person took a shady screenshot that was misinterpreted?

    The way they've screwed DoL levelling is a bad enough measure against RMT. I won't even play the classes.
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  2. #22
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    Shade Hikari
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    Why do RMT even exist for this game. Are they stock piling the gil for a rainy day or something? I can't imagine anyone actually going out of their way to buy virtual currency for this game at this point in time, hell there isn't even much to buy or much reason to buy it the way stats work. That and it's fairly easy to afford just about anything if you do your leves.
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    XI - Darkshade - Shiva
    XIV - Shade Highwind - Figaro

  3. #23
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    Arcadia Aurora
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    Anyone who supports/defends anything even remotely related to or suspicially RMT-looking is considered a gil-buyer and should be banned on the spot. SE should not take chances with this. Ban anyone who thinks this "Lala train" is not RMT, because clearly those people are RMT supporters (gil-buyers) as this is so OBVIOUSLY an RMT train heading to it's next destination. Anyone who's ever played another MMO should know this.

    SE please bring forth the ban hammer. Without people buying gil, the sellers have no one to sell to. Thus ends RMT.
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  4. #24
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    @all the people who are like "who cares about rmt? gil rains from the sky and MW suck..."

    ever think about how many millions and millions of gil they have aquired since launch? What happens if this game is fixed so that gil isn't as easy to come by, or with the introduction of new craftable items, new materia system, new players. You dont think anyone will want any gil in this game?

    In the long run I see this as being a problem
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  5. #25
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Is it weird that they have obscure names and follow 1 guy all of the time? Yes, but your pic ONLY shows that they have obscure names and are following him for a moment. Is it weird that none of them respond? No. I don't respond to half of the people that try and talk to me. Why? Because if I don't know you and I'm busy, I'm not going to take time out of my day to entertain you.

    What I was saying in the other thread and in this thread is that your screenshots prove nothing because a picture can't show anything illegal unless it is CLEARLY RMT activity such as shouting stuff like "FFXI GIL - URL-REMOVED DUE TO COMMON SENSE -$12/1MIL" THAT is RMT activity. While the actions in your SS are odd, they offer no real indication of RMT activity.

    ALSO, not all bots are RMT and not all RMT bot. Just to clear that up...
    First of all... Posting a live URL to a known RMT site. Brilliant. /sarcasm

    Secondly, I have to concur with what was stated.. You do seem to become awful defensive when ever someone brings up the topic of RMT, going off on lectures of "what RMT is and isn't", etc.

    Why are you so quick and eager to lawyer up and defend what others are doing when it comes to that particular topic?

    And you always bring it back to "what you do"... almost like you feel the need to justify and explain your own behavior, even when your own behavior isn't what's being called into question. Guilty conscience?

    Anyone who's spent more than, say, a few months playing a MMO with active RMT in it has seen those character trains and can very safely guess exactly why they're there and what purpose they serve. To try and dismiss it because "they're not doing anything illegal right that moment" is really rather disingenuous. I'm sure we all know exactly in what context the OP asked their question. You're the one trying to make it about 'what they're doing right that second', completely ignoring the larger point being made.

    The saying, "the lady doth protest too much, methinks", seems to bear relevance to your posts on this topic. Question is... why so defensive?
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  6. #26
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    every time someone brings this up people deny what it really is, and this is why they get away with it. SE asks that you report any suspicious activity, and they will look into it. This classifies as suspicious, so report it and move on ;p
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  7. #27
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    It is some person doing extreme multi-boxing, but there isn't any evidence that they are botting or RMTing. They have the Taru/lala armies on Karnak too. And they cant start banning for multi-boxing. They've already been reported long ago as suspicious. . .
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  8. #28
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    Syntax Lies
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    i have an identical screen shot of this on my server, ill post it when i get home.
    I sat there and watched the leader launch leves and then 2 or 3 lalas would launch leves after him but they would never move. 5-10 minutes later the guy would come back and the same thing over again.
    The main guys name was just a bunch of letters like, jgkr sksiew and all the lalas had similar names. I tried to send him tells but he wouldn't answer.

    i know that this is not the hard evidence that SE want so they should make rules against the number of accounts a player can be logged into at once.
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 08-17-2011 at 01:07 AM.

  9. #29
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    IMO multiboxing shouldn't happen. You are gaining max amount of gil that can later be sold as RMT and whatnot. I mean your techniquely cheating the game using 6 other characters to get yourself gil, items, ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Is it weird that they have obscure names and follow 1 guy all of the time? Yes, but your pic ONLY shows that they have obscure names and are following him for a moment. Is it weird that none of them respond? No. I don't respond to half of the people that try and talk to me. Why? Because if I don't know you and I'm busy, I'm not going to take time out of my day to entertain you.
    This is what is wrong with this game.
    There is no community.
    If somebody ask's me a question or just simple chit chat,
    i'll respond (unless they're being a dumbarse)
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