I don't know what it's called but it isn't right...

[DeadRiser]

they aren't all dressed the same and how is it not RMT like? They aren't committing RMT actions. What do I mean by this? They aren't botting in this pic nor are they doing micro-transactions. This pic shows nothing other than a few lalas following each other.

But you can't agree how friggin weird it is that none of them respond to anything and follow one person who has a name that somewhat makes sense?

I mean weren't you the one in the other thread denying everything you could about a botter and about botting period?

[Chocobits]

But you can't agree how friggin weird it is that none of them respond to anything and follow one person who has a name that somewhat makes sense?

I mean weren't you the one in the other thread denying everything you could about a botter and about botting period?

You must be new here! <3 In FFXI we had alliances of 18 level 18 characters with no subs forming a train to farm Yagudo Necklaces in Giddeus. I don't think a one of them got punished until they were actually caught botting.

More importantly: Who's buying gil for FFXIV? The stuff rains like candy from the sky as it is. You get gil just for doing the things that get you Exp/Sp and treasure: Behest, Leves and Raids. It's like you get paid to level up.

[Dubont]

But you can't agree how friggin weird it is that none of them respond to anything and follow one person who has a name that somewhat makes sense?

I mean weren't you the one in the other thread denying everything you could about a botter and about botting period?

Is it weird that they have obscure names and follow 1 guy all of the time? Yes, but your pic ONLY shows that they have obscure names and are following him for a moment. Is it weird that none of them respond? No. I don't respond to half of the people that try and talk to me. Why? Because if I don't know you and I'm busy, I'm not going to take time out of my day to entertain you.

What I was saying in the other thread and in this thread is that your screenshots prove nothing because a picture can't show anything illegal unless it is CLEARLY RMT activity such as shouting stuff like "FFXI GIL -Content was edited by Moderator due to violation of Forum Guidelines- $12/1MIL" THAT is RMT activity. While the actions in your SS are odd, they offer no real indication of RMT activity.

ALSO, not all bots are RMT and not all RMT bot. Just to clear that up...

[Preypacer]

Is it weird that they have obscure names and follow 1 guy all of the time? Yes, but your pic ONLY shows that they have obscure names and are following him for a moment. Is it weird that none of them respond? No. I don't respond to half of the people that try and talk to me. Why? Because if I don't know you and I'm busy, I'm not going to take time out of my day to entertain you.

What I was saying in the other thread and in this thread is that your screenshots prove nothing because a picture can't show anything illegal unless it is CLEARLY RMT activity such as shouting stuff like "FFXI GIL - URL-REMOVED DUE TO COMMON SENSE -$12/1MIL" THAT is RMT activity. While the actions in your SS are odd, they offer no real indication of RMT activity.

ALSO, not all bots are RMT and not all RMT bot. Just to clear that up...

First of all... Posting a live URL to a known RMT site. Brilliant. /sarcasm

Secondly, I have to concur with what was stated.. You do seem to become awful defensive when ever someone brings up the topic of RMT, going off on lectures of "what RMT is and isn't", etc.

Why are you so quick and eager to lawyer up and defend what others are doing when it comes to that particular topic?

And you always bring it back to "what you do"... almost like you feel the need to justify and explain your own behavior, even when your own behavior isn't what's being called into question. Guilty conscience?

Anyone who's spent more than, say, a few months playing a MMO with active RMT in it has seen those character trains and can very safely guess exactly why they're there and what purpose they serve. To try and dismiss it because "they're not doing anything illegal right that moment" is really rather disingenuous. I'm sure we all know exactly in what context the OP asked their question. You're the one trying to make it about 'what they're doing right that second', completely ignoring the larger point being made.

The saying, "the lady doth protest too much, methinks", seems to bear relevance to your posts on this topic. Question is... why so defensive?

[Dubont]

First of all... Posting a live URL to a known RMT site. Brilliant. /sarcasm

Secondly, I have to concur with what was stated.. You do seem to become awful defensive when ever someone brings up the topic of RMT, going off on lectures of "what RMT is and isn't", etc.

Why are you so quick and eager to lawyer up and defend what others are doing when it comes to that particular topic?

And you always bring it back to "what you do"... almost like you feel the need to justify and explain your own behavior, even when your own behavior isn't what's being called into question. Guilty conscience?

Anyone who's spent more than, say, a few months playing a MMO with active RMT in it has seen those character trains and can very safely guess exactly why they're there and what purpose they serve. To try and dismiss it because "they're not doing anything illegal right that moment" is really rather disingenuous. I'm sure we all know exactly in what context the OP asked their question. You're the one trying to make it about 'what they're doing right that second', completely ignoring the larger point being made.

The saying, "the lady doth protest too much, methinks", seems to bear relevance to your posts on this topic. Question is... why so defensive?

Why so defensive? Ok, I'll tell you why. People are making accusations and basically raising the pitch forks without any real proof. Is this behavior odd? Yes, but there is absolutely NO PROOF in this SS that this group is RMT related and even less proof that they are bot related. Posts like these are what create games like FFXIV at launch. Everything in the game was an anti-rmt/ anti-bot measure and look what happened. Here we are a year after launch and a lot of those "limitations" are still in place and a lot of players have left while the RMT and botters (2 different categories of players btw)are still here. People are QQ about RMT obviously haven't played very many MMOs and they are the ones that are the cause of game flops like this one. Stop the QQ and live with it. They are everywhere and you're crying isn't going to do anything other than cause SE to make more freaking mini-games for everything that RMT and botters can just pixel-farm and be ok with it.

tldr: This SS proves nothing and the pointless crying needs to stop since it does nothing but cause games to be released with a score of 4.0

[syntaxlies]

Why so defensive? Ok, I'll tell you why. People are making accusations and basically raising the pitch forks without any real proof. Is this behavior odd? Yes, but there is absolutely NO PROOF in this SS that this group is RMT related and even less proof that they are bot related. Posts like these are what create games like FFXIV at launch. Everything in the game was an anti-rmt/ anti-bot measure and look what happened. Here we are a year after launch and a lot of those "limitations" are still in place and a lot of players have left while the RMT and botters (2 different categories of players btw)are still here. People are QQ about RMT obviously haven't played very many MMOs and they are the ones that are the cause of game flops like this one. Stop the QQ and live with it. They are everywhere and you're crying isn't going to do anything other than cause SE to make more freaking mini-games for everything that RMT and botters can just pixel-farm and be ok with it.

tldr: This SS proves nothing and the pointless crying needs to stop since it does nothing but cause games to be released with a score of 4.0

dont act like an RMT jerk off unless you are an RMT jerk off. SE should ban anyone doing this and if hey dont wanna be banned they shouldn't do it. If nothing else they are taking advantage of the game.

[Dubont]

dont act like an RMT jerk off unless you are an RMT jerk off. SE should ban anyone doing this and if hey dont wanna be banned they shouldn't do it. If nothing else they are taking advantage of the game.

so SE should ban everyone who has ever multiboxed? Ok..so..your 2k player base is going to drop down to about 200. Good job.

[syntaxlies]

so SE should ban everyone who has ever multiboxed? Ok..so..your 2k player base is going to drop down to about 200. Good job.

yes they should ban anyone who multi-boxes 8 accounts at the same time.

They shouldn't allow more then 3 accounts to be logged in at a time from a player.

[AngryNixon]

but why? It is not against the TOS in any way shape or form. It is perfectly legal, within the bounds of the game and it's rules, to run multiple accounts at once. This is not a bannable offense and should not be as there is absolutely no reason to do it other than to prevent RMT. SE tried to make a game that was anti-RMT...it got a 4.0 and flopped horribly...

First off, yes.

dont act like an RMT jerk off unless you are an RMT jerk off. SE should ban anyone doing this and if hey dont wanna be banned they shouldn't do it. If nothing else they are taking advantage of the game.

Second, this is crazy old man on his porch yelling at passing kids territory... Go back to screaming at your fridge for poisoning your food when you're asleep.

[VeranRamaden]

Is it weird that they have obscure names and follow 1 guy all of the time? Yes, but your pic ONLY shows that they have obscure names and are following him for a moment. Is it weird that none of them respond? No. I don't respond to half of the people that try and talk to me. Why? Because if I don't know you and I'm busy, I'm not going to take time out of my day to entertain you.

This is what is wrong with this game.
There is no community.
If somebody ask's me a question or just simple chit chat,
i'll respond (unless they're being a dumbarse)