Coeurl & Heavensward

[Mahes]

Most likely not the topic you were asking for on it, but lumping together career crafting as "casual" is quite a misguided concept.. Crafters put tons of time, money, and energy into reaching the highest possible points to benefit others than just themselves, usually.

I see where you are going with this and I agree to an extent. We had/have a few career crafters on the server who really only put there time into crafting and if that is what makes them happy in the game that is what they need to do. That being said a lot of our server crafts casually, I do and several other people I know do. I personally love to craft my Leatherworker and my Alchemist are my two loves. Here recently I am assuming because of the pre-expansion lule a lot of people have turned to crafting to fill the downtime. That is why I placed it in the "Casual" group.

We have tremendous amounts of "just friends" FC, which are very splintered in the scope of this idea. Do some smaller FCs look into the idea of "befriending" the larger ones? Yes, but in the end, it really harms them because they still feel a bit excluded in the grand scope of things.

I completely agree with this hands down. Our server has so many FCs that are "just friends" FCs and though I see why they do it I see why it hurts them. I am 2nd in command of Abel's Vengeance and I have noticed that a lot the "just friend" Free Companies vanish in 1-6 months. The largest issue I see from small FCs is the fact that they play with only there friends and don't meet new people and then when they want to get content done and they cant the either leave the server or they just stop playing the game. My personal number one thing when playing any MMO is if you aren't having fun figure out a way to have fun. What I see benefiting the entire server as a whole if the smaller FCs talking about merging with a larger one and creating a LS for their friends. It can server the same purpose the current FC is doing and it will allow them to meet new people and venture further into the game then they thought.

I think this is a nice and ambitious idea. I'm like TrueFaith87 described and lead a small guild that just has my and my friend's characters in it. I have 1 character that I've completed the story all the way through but haven't started raiding with and another character who I've completed the 2.0 story with and have been taking on the crystal tower with to get her geared up. That being said, if an extra tank is needed to complete main storyline content I'm willing to tank it. My character I'm doing CT with is a dragoon and I'm open to helping as best as possible with any content I've unlocked with her. I'm typically on in the evenings and weekends and all of my characters share the same last name of Biolith. Hope we can create something to help everyone.

Alright now I have a question for you, Have you tried to raid if so how successful have you been?

Another question I have, Have you had any questions about your class and not be able to figure it out do to not being able to talk to someone and actually fine tune your rotation?

These are little things that i want to do to help our players on the server. Back when A Realm Reborn (2.0) had come out. I experienced one of the most friendly and helpful communities than in ANY OTHER MMO I have ever played. When I hit 50 on my White Mage there were people wanting to help others with CM and Praetorium there were people who had Cleared Ifrit HM and Garuda HM coming back and helping people just to help them. There were people helping others with class rotation stuff and willing to give up their own free time just to benefit the community and now we have people trying to sell other people the "Tips and Tricks" they learned from raiding, and selling clear carries just to make money.

Our server is not small, I've played on a "small" server before for 9 weeks and it was hell... It's the same 50 ppl everywhere you go at endgame, the same 50 names everyday in Towns ...the same 3 PFs up at the same time everyday lol...YES, our endgame is small due to many of them moving to bigger servers. But for the over all pop of coeurl we area Mid-pop server. We have many players just not a heavy active endgame much any more is all you're seeing.

I know this is just my point on this.. But I'm more of what's "the bigger picther" when it comes to looking at something not just the small ones that make up less then 1%-5% of our server ...aka FCoB.

Our server you can argue is Mid-Pop I wont deny that especially with the influx of new players we are getting on our server, but roughly the amount of people that come on can't outweigh the amount of people who are transferring off due to the fact they can't get content done on our server. Also I have been approached by people from Large FCs and Small FCs to help them get through content, since I created my Community Help LS.

Right now the issue on our server is that people aren't willing to help others with things that they need. Now I'm not talking about helping someone atma farm or dungeon atma farm, because anyone who as done that will agree with me.. IT SUCKS, but through Extreme Mode primals, Coil or even other trials.

The community is what needs to be kickstarted and fix the ideals of player that have the mentality of "Why should I help them, They are apart of my FC" is terrible. We have a large number of people on our server who want to get through content such as T9 and on and there are only a handful of people willing to put the effort forth and helping them.

Hey Mahes, I have a lot of respect for what you are doing here. I want the same thing you do. White Gravity is very willing and able to help with Step 5 - we ask people to fill out the Raid Static Recruitment Form on our website (link) so that we can fit them with a group of their current skill level. We have multiple spreadsheets set up to map out all this data so that we can match people. We've been able to get 3 new statics raiding and are assisting them to the best of our ability. It's a lot of work though - if we continue making statics in this way we may run out of resources/willing players who can teach and assist. People's schedules fill up quick and there is only so much they can give while still being able to play this game for themselves. But yeah, our long term goal here is to have more statics on Coeurl ready to go for Heavensward.

This is a huge goal but I don't think it's impossible. It's going to be a lot of effort to pull together. Let us know how we can help. Maybe we can put an LS together for interested parties?

Royal I want to help as much as I can with whatever you need. Ill get a LS Created and we can figure something using both of our Free Companies Resources. ^.^ Any other FC that is willing is most definitely able to join!

Crafting has its own end game. Server firsts needs crafters to back them up for crafting gears and melds. Who do you think made those crafted gears worn by people who cleared final coil in the first few weeks? Crafters have their own "server firsts" when it comes to making the latest stuff. Please don't segregate the crafters and the raiders. They will need each other.

And about the topic you are proposing...idk what to feel about it. It feels like something the fc "PACT" would do back then to try to organize something like this. Although seeing them preaching about "saving the server" then leaving for another server left a hypocritical taste in my mouth.

I wont deny that crafters have their own version of "Endgame" but like I stated there are a larger number of Casual Crafters than Career Crafter.

Moving on to what Pact tried to do; they were trying to do the same thing in principle but going about it a different way. They wanted to spur community activity by giving incentives such as raffles, and other events like that. I am wanting the Free Companies to work as one to help the community by helping those who want to learn to better themselves in ALL ASPECTS. If eventually as a community we want to start up a raffle or scavenger hunt or something along those lines cool but to start with that is not how I want to spur the community to work as one. As well I see why PACT ended up leaving, they tried to get people to do things and people kept turning their shoulders the other way and avoiding it. If I had more time to give at that point I would have definitely thrown my hat into the ring to help what PACT tried to do and I would have done everything in my power to steer it the way that I am trying to do now.

Lastly I don't want any credit thrown my way or towards my FC I want to spur community growth and activity. I want players to start working towards helping one another instead of shitting on each other. I want Free Companies to take it upon themselves to help everyone not just there Free Company. It would be cool if crafters helped one another with learning rotations and work together on the economy since they are the frontlines in it, some could argue more than other players.

there's a lot of people in our server that are just too greedy or too entitled or whatever to be helped. We can sit here and talk all day lomy how to fix the server but in the end who will actually take the initiative and help? Or are we gonna all point fingers, poach fc members and blame each other? When are we all gonna stand up and actually care for our server rather than saving our own asses? Lemme know when people wanna start that and I'll even bring it up to my fc and even try(no promises) to make them join this cause

In all honesty though I do need to say something with this comment. In almost every forum post I go to that you have commented on instead of giving changes that could be done to help whatever cause it is you attack people or are really negative.

I have been and can be really negative too but it seems like a consistant thing when it comes to your posts. Maybe you don't mean it to sound that way but it comes across.

[Lulu89]

Our server you can argue is Mid-Pop I wont deny that especially with the influx of new players we are getting on our server, but roughly the amount of people that come on can't outweigh the amount of people who are transferring off due to the fact they can't get content done on our server.

Royal I want to help as much as I can with whatever you need. Ill get a LS Created and we can figure something using both of our Free Companies Resources. ^.^ Any other FC that is willing is most definitely able to.

Yes I can 100% say the same we are a mid-pop server with very lower active/helpful endgame.

My FC it not a endgame FC we are more about just having fun and running endgame on the side. So we aim to help the more casual player v the more hardcore/endgamer.

I won't lie it can be hard at time to help others with endgame with so few "good" or "fast learners" ... endgame players on our server to top it off with our low endgame player count as it is. But I'm 100% behind making the server more active and will help in any way I can. Like I said befor I'm alrdy teaming up with Royal on this to push more my endgame FC members to join his raiding teams.

I my self am a hardcore raider but won't make or lead a team.. ( I do have a raid team 6/8) I'm to lol yea the old me will come out and I don't like him much... But at the same time I love being on a pro team that can learn as fast as me to make endgame more fun. Both me and my wife love endgame ^_^/

[Mahes]

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My ultimate goal isn't to get people through 100% of all content thats not it at all but I want people who want to get content done to be able to via finding group, etc; as well as I want people to know their class in and out all aspects of their class for many reasons. Our endgame on this server numbers wise does suck there not debate but there are plenty of newer player on our server who can attest to that and they either are stuck at a lower turn or aren't geared/have the needed abilities to do so.

Casters hate Bards that don't sing, Healers hate tanks that don't use cooldowns. These are well known facts, but a bard who cross-classes mantra using it as a big hit going out if there isn't a monk, Is not what people think about. I want to push to improve the quality of new raiders and players in general.

Going back to your FC and how its more for the casual player thats cool servers need FCs like yours and mine (Casual/Hardcore Raiders) and Royals and countless others out there.

[Lulu89]

My ultimate goal isn't to get people through 100% of all content

Going back to your FC and how its more for the casual player thats cool servers need FCs like yours and mine (Casual/Hardcore Raiders) and Royals and countless others out there.

Oo yes I'm not saying 100% too just saying we need to do more as a server and come together to help the newer raid players fined there way. You can be in a casual FC and still get raid help that good.. But if you're guild is like mying we don't push for ex primes and coil like Royal's FC. So it harder to get our members pass or in to raiding.. I may be a hardcore raider but I don't like leading endgame.. I'm a fast leaner but a bad teacher lol I'm more of looking out for the lil guy. I do a lot of crafting for my members I'm all 3 star + in all my crafts and 4 star in 2 of them.

But yea back on to the points ^_^...
I'm for helping and pushing for better raiders on our server and 100% rdy to back this up. But we need to do more and start soon.. 3.0 (49 days) and Alex is 70-ish day off and that not a lot of time too sadly.

[Mahes]

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Well don't get me wrong I'm looking out for the "little guy" to but only if the "little guy" cares; I am not going to out of my way to help someone who just want to be carried through content. I won't carry anyone even in my own FC. I can comfortably say that everyone in my FC that is past Turn 9 can play there class to the fullest. In my FC we strive to bring out the best out of our players. We get them to watch videos/learn strategies/and practice before we get them the clear... that being said we will still go in with them but instead of pulling in the entire fc to help them practice we will go in with them and que via df wipes are inevitable but at least they can get to know the mechanic and such. Several times on TS we have discussions about how we can pull out more dps, or how to benefit any group we are in. I am a 3* crafter as well in everything and 4* 4 of them as well, so I understand crafting for your FC members I do, but in our FC we do push for getting everyone through Primals if people don't have a static and they are looking we will do our best to find the best slot that they can fill.

[sciondar]

Alright now I have a question for you, Have you tried to raid if so how successful have you been?

Another question I have, Have you had any questions about your class and not be able to figure it out do to not being able to talk to someone and actually fine tune your rotation?

I started doing the Crystal Tower raid series with my dragoon alt. I haven't tried yet as a tank with my profile character. I've made it through all 3 parts of the Crystal Tower with my dragoon and have even completed the daily quest once. I'm enjoying the experience so far. I've run into people in dungeons that have given some good tips for holding aggro when I was in lower level dungeons and still learning, I've also been trying to visit the forums more often and reading threads in the different class sub-forums to see how others handle the role as well as how others observe the roll. I feel with all of this I have a fairly good handle on my rotations I just don't always remember mechanics properly or click a wrong button because I think it is something else in the heat of a battle. The one thing that I haven't grasped yet are the tank swap mechanics I've read about. I'd say those are the two main things that make me hesitate to tank end game content.

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, forgot to check back on this thread over the weekend.

[Mahes]

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Thats Great send me a message ingame and I can help you somemore. I will even que into dungeons with you and give you pointers as we run it if you would like. Also you are more them welcome to come talk on TS if you want to get some advice. Just pm me in game and ill send you the info