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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Whether or not you approve, this is the meaning that the community as a whole has chosen.
    That doesn't make hate acceptable. That was literally the point of my last post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    And the very fact that you have to call it the n-word makes your comparison fall flat on its face.
    It's called forum rules you fool. Do you really not grasp such a simple concept?

    I get it though. You all love to spread hate around and you don't care whether you should or not. Go out in the world and continue to be the little hate mongers you are. I wash my hands of this hateful thread.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 05-02-2015 at 05:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    That doesn't make hate acceptable. That was literally the point of my last post.
    Assigning a negative connotation to a word now equals hate? Language is constantly evolving. Words come and go, meanings change with different generations, it's how the world works.


    And before more crazy comes out of this, I am referring to the use of the term elitist. And I could give other examples of common words that have changed throughout the years. Trying to make your point by comparing horribly racist terms to that of harmless (but negative) terms is just ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It's like you literally ignore when I brought up the racist example a few posts ago.
    Honestly, I had missed the slur bit the first time around which is why I had edited my post. However I still think it's asinine to try and make your point regarding language evolution and possible bias by bringing up racial slurs.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 05-02-2015 at 05:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Assigning a negative connotation to a word now equals hate? Language is constantly evolving. Words come and go, meanings change with different generations, it's how the world works.
    Yes. Every. Single. Racist. Word. Ever.

    It's like you literally ignore when I brought up the racist example a few posts ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It's called forum rules you fool. Do you really not grasp such a simple concept?

    I get it though. You all love to spread hate around and you don't care whether you should or not. Go out in the world and continue to be the little hate mongers you are. I wash my hands of this hateful thread.
    Why do you think the forum rules prohibit the spelling of the word?

    Because its derogatory meaning is still accepted by and large as part of its usage.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 05-02-2015 at 05:29 AM.

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    Tiggy, if you don't like that people think that word is negative, then don't use it... But I'm not about to start pretending that the word has a positive/neutral meaning. Currently in our gaming culture it does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I get it though. You all love to spread hate around and you don't care whether you should or not. Go out in the world and continue to be the little hate mongers you are. I wash my hands of this hateful thread.
    Well that took a turn! lol.

    I am now a hate monger because I refuse to accept a positive spin on Elitists. Very well.
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    Lol elitists.. most self-proclaimed elitists that I've met are arrogant, rude, and very anti-social, openly mocking or looking down on those who don't know every single detail about the game just because they're not on it 24/7, anyone that openly wants to use that title and looks down on others deserves all the scorn they get.
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    Usually, if you ask someone whether they thought the feudal system of the past was fine, where kings and queens had the power to literally do whatever the heck they wanted to the general population, while looking down on them and calling themselves superior, people usually condemn it. Funny, because eletists are the exact same thing.

    It's an exclusively negative term. Good, experienced and constructive players don't feel the need for self-proclamation of their own significance. Truth to be told, you're nothing but an ant on the world map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HexWeaver View Post
    Lol elitists.. most self-proclaimed elitists that I've met are arrogant, rude, and very anti-social, openly mocking or looking down on those who don't know every single detail about the game just because they're not on it 24/7, anyone that openly wants to use that title and looks down on others deserves all the scorn they get.
    Quote Originally Posted by Imoye View Post
    Usually, if you ask someone whether they thought the feudal system of the past was fine, where kings and queens had the power to literally do whatever the heck they wanted to the general population, while looking down on them and calling themselves superior, people usually condemn it. Funny, because eletists are the exact same thing.

    It's an exclusively negative term. Good, experienced and constructive players don't feel the need for self-proclamation of their own significance. Truth to be told, you're nothing but an ant on the world map.
    Funny, because in these two posts I see the same arrogance, rude, and hateful attitude they so openly speak against. Two wrong doesn't make a right. You are just as arrogant, rude, and hateful as the elitists that you talk down on. Discrimination is discrimination, it doesn't matter if you discriminates against those who are more or less accomplished in game.
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    Last edited by KyrsIsley; 05-02-2015 at 06:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyrsIsley View Post
    Funny, because in these two posts I see the same arrogance, rude, and hateful attitude they so openly speak against.. Two wrong doesn't make a right. You are just as arrogant, rude, and hateful as the elitists that you talk down on. Discrimination is discrimination, it doesn't matter if you discriminates against those who are more or less accomplished in game.
    I don't see anyone discriminating against elite players, hardcore players, casual players or any other players, though I do see people complaining about, and criticizing the behavior of elitists and elitism in general. Like some other posters in this topic, you need to separate "elite" from elitist and elitism. They are not the same.
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